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Need Oil Filter for a '65 LeMans with headers.
Getting everything together now. My car is a 4 speed, has Doug's headers and has a Lakewood bell housing.
The supplied oil filter will fit in it's spot, but we can't get it up there. My choices are: 1. Find a narrower oil filter. 2. Set up remote oil filter. 3. Unbolt the oil filter housing and pull it out the top every time I do an oil change. (Been there, don't want to do that again.) I like to keep things simple, so my preferred solution is #1. What do y'all think?
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1965 Pontiac LeMans. M21, 3.73 in a 12 bolt, Kauffman 461. |
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Best one right here. Been running these for about 4 years now. Nice to be able to inspect for particles and wash and go.
https://kandpengineering.com/product/S16/
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66 GTO Nostalgia Super Stock/Street Legal Car 421 CID, stock block, Wenzler Intake, 2- Carter 750 AFB's, 3.90 Gears, Full Factory Interior, Full Exhaust, Stock Suspension 3750LBS 9.77@136.99 Multiple NSCA/NMCA World Champion 66 GTO 389 3x2, 4 speed, 4.33 gear, Montero Red 33K original Miles 67 GTO 2dr Post, 428, Tri Power, 3.55 Gears 80 Trans Am Black SE Y84 W72 WS6 |
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I have run into this multiple times on customer's cars that have D port Doug's headers and a 4 manual transmission. All the cars were using a factory bell housings though. What I have done is modifying the bell housing so that I can get a full size filter in there. I take a grinder and remove material till I can get it through the opening.
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62' Lemans, Nostalgia Super Stock, 541 CI, IA2 block, billet 4.5" crank, Ross, Wide port Edelbrocks, Gustram intake, 2 4150 style BLP carbs, 2.10 Turbo 400, 9" w/4:30 gears, 8.76 @153, 3100lbs |
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The Exact reason I tell guys with true street cars to run RA manifolds over headers.FWIW,Tom
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I have a 65 four speed with round port doug's headers and mcleod bell. I run the HP2006 filter because the nut on the bottom makes life way easier.
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When I had previous header clearance issues I ran a System-1 210 series "Spin On" Billet oil filter similar to what Mike posted. I used to get badgered on occasions because it had only a 30 micron screen.
Possibly this might be of help: https://pontiacstreetperformance.com...iladapter.html .
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) 5.14 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE |
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We have always used the Wix 51045 for header applications that doesn't have any room for a standard sized filter.
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Wix 51258, or Baldwin B39
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What do you wash it with? |
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Wix 51258
That's considered the 'regular' size filter and similar to the old Delco PF-24 He needs to evaluate it's dimensions. .
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) 5.14 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE |
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51258 is on my 64 with Dougs round ports and the aftermarket bellhousing that has a starter kickout on each side
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468/TKO600 Ford thru bolt equipped 64 Tempest Custom. Custom Nocturne Blue with black interior. |
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Chris: I'm not sure which filter you're currently working with, but for reference if it helps, I have a Wix 51258 on the desk in front of me. It measures exactly 4-1/4" tall and 3-5/8" wide. Those are the real-life measurements, which vary slightly from the official published numbers. I'm hoping to use this filter in my '66 with Doug's d-port headers - although I have an automatic with stock TH400 bellhousing. Time will tell.
I agree, but good luck getting your hands on a pair of RA manifolds these days, though. They've been on backorder at RARE for over a year.
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1966 Pontiac GTO (restoration thread) 1998 BMW 328is (track rat) 2023 Subaru Crosstrek Limited (daily) View my photos: Caught in the Wild Last edited by ZeGermanHam; 01-14-2022 at 09:23 PM. |
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D ports have not been a big issue for a bodies or 2nd gen birds or first gens.Tom
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If you're referring to D-port RA manifolds, that was not my experience for my 66 A-body. I had an order in with RARE for a set of D-port manifolds for a very long time last year. Paul is/was unable to get LH manifold castings for D-ports, but he continued to tell me for many months that he was getting more in "next week". That never happened, so I had to bail on the order. I think there are a few other folks here who hit the same wall as me with getting D-port RA manifolds from RARE. Maybe the D-port RA manifolds sold by other companies are more readily available - no clue on that.
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1966 Pontiac GTO (restoration thread) 1998 BMW 328is (track rat) 2023 Subaru Crosstrek Limited (daily) View my photos: Caught in the Wild |
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It's hard to tell by the angle of the picture in the first post, but what about trying the Firebird long branch filter adapter. It will tilt the filter to the 7-8 o clock position and may clear a larger filter.
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Tom, I've never had a problem with an automatic equipped 64-67 A body with D port Doug headers, but manual transmission cars with the factory bell housings have been the issue. I have had to partially remove the passenger side starter "ear" on the bellhousing so I can get the filters in there. Surprisingly, round port headers for the same car don't have the issue. Only D port ones. Weird!
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62' Lemans, Nostalgia Super Stock, 541 CI, IA2 block, billet 4.5" crank, Ross, Wide port Edelbrocks, Gustram intake, 2 4150 style BLP carbs, 2.10 Turbo 400, 9" w/4:30 gears, 8.76 @153, 3100lbs |
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Wix 51522 or AC PF61 [not 61E].
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Brake Cleaner. Been running these on a few street cars and on my race car. Nice to be able to open it up so easily and inspect for debris.
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66 GTO Nostalgia Super Stock/Street Legal Car 421 CID, stock block, Wenzler Intake, 2- Carter 750 AFB's, 3.90 Gears, Full Factory Interior, Full Exhaust, Stock Suspension 3750LBS 9.77@136.99 Multiple NSCA/NMCA World Champion 66 GTO 389 3x2, 4 speed, 4.33 gear, Montero Red 33K original Miles 67 GTO 2dr Post, 428, Tri Power, 3.55 Gears 80 Trans Am Black SE Y84 W72 WS6 |
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