[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge

The head/port he will be running has literally no data to back it up and no proven intake. It could be a complete turd. You guys can't seem to help overhyping everything all the time. It's like a damn infomercial we are all forced to watch every time one of you posts.

... you do not know that R70, we do not let out everything we do, there are multiple engines running the new CNC ports being used, as well as the manifold ...

... you seemed to have passed judgement on something you simply don't have all the information for ...

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by mike leech

Like as in the NOTHING thats been done?

... that's not true Mike, and besides, honestly what do you care ?? ...

... if you're so anxious, or Interested, then instead of being negative (most of the time) how bout' you spend some money and effort and let's build something ...

... because otherwise you're not in the position to be demanding of what we do, and most certainly when we do it Mike, and I'm not poking or trying to be rude, I'm just being very honest with you ...

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by mike leech

Explain please....What do "I" have to lose?

I've agreed to race a cv combo 3+ years in the making, that is 30 CID bigger(shocker), same weight(supposedly), belt driven, prolly drysump, Darren Morgan whazzo port, Bigaz spreadbore carb, with a canted valve head and a sheetmetal intake. built by the guy who does prostock heads at sonny leonard racing engines.

vs

30 less cid, same weight, old azz Eheads, cast intake, wet sump, timing chain,reg dominator,Ok Magic Man ports that he will bust out in no time! built by me in my garage.


LOOKS LIKE I SHOULD GET KILLED ON PAPER EH? Sure hope for you guys sake thats how it goes. I got betting money that says he will not show unless he can win for sure. If it looks close in testing he will not want to race. But we will never know as this will be top secret squirrel crap....

So why have you basically begged him to race you?

He didnt come challenging you.

He merely accepted. Bill said he'll race you... he will race you.
Do you race people when you arent ready to race? He's still in build stage. If it was together you might have a legit complaint Mike.

If he beats you its his fault???

Ok sounds about right... why would I expect different?

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... you do not know that R70, we do not let out everything we do, there are multiple engines running the new CNC ports being used, as well as the manifold ...

... you seemed to have passed judgement on something you simply don't have all the information for ...

The new CNC program is so good that no one has seen it go down the track?

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

So why have you basically begged him to race you?

He didnt come challenging you.

He merely accepted. Bill said he'll race you... he will race you.
Do you race people when you arent ready to race? He's still in build stage. If it was together you might have a legit complaint Mike.

If he beats you its his fault???

Ok sounds about right... why would I expect different?

Did you recently take a fall from the top of a stupid tree and hit your head on every branch on the way down?

yes he did challenge me first for norwalk..... last year

I have nothing to lose or prove, I don't care if i lose....bet that you do though.

[R 70 Judge]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... you do not know that R70, we do not let out everything we do, there are multiple engines running the new CNC ports being used, as well as the manifold ...

... you seemed to have passed judgement on something you simply don't have all the information for ...

Well that doesn't make any sense. You take criticism nearly every time you post regarding not having any results of your work, yet you are choosing to keep it quiet?

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge

Well that doesn't make any sense. You take criticism nearly every time you post regarding not having any results of your work, yet you are choosing to keep it quiet?

If results are kept that quiet, its not that good.

[S/st 54]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... we do not let out everything we do, there are multiple engines running the new CNC ports being used, as well as the manifold ...

... you seemed to have passed judgement on something you simply don't have all the information for ...

N/A combo 's????I'd sure like to hear some results.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge

Well that doesn't make any sense. You take criticism nearly every time you post regarding not having any results of your work, yet you are choosing to keep it quiet?

... how can that not make sense ? ... nearly every piece of CV-1 results, or anything I do especially, gets blown full of holes, distorted or twisted in some way shape or form heck even out right fabrications are thrown around on this forum concerning the product, and no person seeks to right those wrongs ?? ...

... not trying to be argumentative, but our info just doesn't get accepted the same, so we decided to keep most of the development to ourselves, until we're ready to release it ...

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

If results are kept that quiet, its not that good.

... yet another negative BS response from Captain Jack, what a surprise !!! ...

[bankbook]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... you do not know that R70, we do not let out everything we do, there are multiple engines running the new CNC ports being used, as well as the manifold ...

... you seemed to have passed judgement on something you simply don't have all the information for ...

Believe he is referring to the new Visner heads.

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... how can that not make sense ? ... nearly every piece of CV-1 results, or anything I do especially, gets blown full of holes, distorted or twisted in some way shape or form heck even out right fabrications are thrown around on this forum concerning the product, and no person seeks to right those wrongs ?? ...

... not trying to be argumentative, but our info just doesn't get accepted the same, so we decided to keep most of the development to ourselves, until we're ready to release it ...

I don't think Calvin's 800+hp bracket motor was slammed. For what it was, it was very respectable!

[R 70 Judge]

Originally Posted by bankbook

Believe he is referring to the new Visner heads.

I take it that he's implying he has running engines with his CNC ported CV heads that are using his fabricated manifolds.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't see any connection to the Visner heads.

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

N/A combo 's????I'd sure like to hear some results.

you are prolly one of them

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by mike leech

you are prolly one of them

... nope ... his heads were a very basic CNC program, the new gen stuff is very different ...

... I'm not saying his heads are not a nice improvement, just not as much work is all, they were very nice heads though for what was done ...

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by bankbook

Believe he is referring to the new Visner heads.

... huh ?? ...

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... yet another negative BS response from Captain Jack, what a surprise !!! ...

The truth hurts sometimes.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by bankbook

Believe he is referring to the new Visner heads.

nope

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... nope ... his heads were a very basic CNC program, the new gen stuff is very different ...

... I'm not saying his heads are not a nice improvement, just not as much work is all, they were very nice heads though for what was done ...

Damn, S/st 54 has some big Baller CNC CV1s!?

I always new he was a big Baller!!!

[bankbook]

Did not see the whole post in its' entirety.
Oh we'll.