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#1
11-27-2015, 03:42 PM
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1967 Engine unit numbers
I have seen this on 3 different 67 GTO's. On the PHS, engine unit numbers have the 2 letter engine code then only 4 of the engine unit numbers on the manifest. For example, WS1234 instead of 123456. Most of the ones I have seen have the 6 digit numbers except for these 3. Has anybody else seen this or have an explanation why? Was it certain plants just doing this? All 3 where built late in the year, April or later. Thanks!
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#2
11-27-2015, 06:08 PM
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Do you have pics these?
Do you have any of the engines with that phs numbers? I wonder if it just shows the pertinent numbers, with the 1st numbers are zeros so of no significance? 
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#3
11-28-2015, 12:05 PM
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No pics or engines. These were cars I was looking at buying. I've been looking at a few and these 3 were the oddballs. The engines were stamped with 6 numbers and the 2 letter code but the PHS listed the 2 letter engine code then only 4 of the 6 numbers in the engine unit number of the manifest.. Only 1 of the cars was a match with the 4 numbers. I've never seen this just wondering if anybody else has. Thank you..
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#4
12-15-2015, 04:52 PM
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I had the same question when I received my PHS docs.
I have had the car for over 30 years and was certain the engine was original. I finally ordered the docs this year for the heck of it. I saw only 4 numbers on the billing document and not the last two digits that are on the block. Here is what PHS said when I asked him about it. Car is a Fremont Ca car. I live near there. James <jamesf@icvdm.com> Jul 22 to PHS My car is stamped YSXXXX59 and the invoice only shows YSXXXX Was wondering if the last two digits are omitted sometimes? PHS Muscle Cars <phsmusclecars@gmail.com> Jul 22 Reply to James Different plants sometimes use the engine code rather than all of the digits. That would be the original engine in your car.
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-- James Work '67 GTO Convertible "Koerner Built 413 500 hp with a Victor!.. I'll run a stock intake." '75 Formula 400 - Daily Driver - Running with my Home Built 455 and TH400 Details here: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=588372 |
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#5
12-15-2015, 06:16 PM
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i have a 67 from fremont ca my engine # is 102 digits higher from the # on production sheet engine built same day and installed same day this was a zone 29 dealer demonstrator. they put in ram air when not ram air i think they smoked some good weed in fremont ca as many numbers dont match but are original
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#6
12-15-2015, 06:17 PM
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Oh yeah Fremont was just different baby,,,
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-- James Work '67 GTO Convertible "Koerner Built 413 500 hp with a Victor!.. I'll run a stock intake." '75 Formula 400 - Daily Driver - Running with my Home Built 455 and TH400 Details here: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=588372 |
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#7
12-19-2015, 08:36 AM
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Hungover
My 67 GTO is also a Freemont car. EUN WT2428
Billing date of 12-22-66 I just figured Betty Lou was hungover from a Christmas party when she typed the documentation |
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#8
12-20-2015, 05:17 AM
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FWIW I also have questionable paperwork from a Fremont car but it's a 69. I also have read that things happened differently there. Maybe Jim is on to something.
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1966 GTO Vert automatic. 1969 CR Judge Ram Air III 4sp Pattern Car. 1969 GTO standard 350HP TH-400. 2006 GTO Phantom Black 6spd. 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air. 1976 LE Trans Am 50th Anniversary Edition with T top. 1976 Formula 350. 1977 Grand Prix Model J 350. 1978 Trans am 400 Pontiac. 1979 Trans am 403 Olds. 1968 Olds 442. 1971 TR6. |
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#9
12-20-2015, 08:32 AM
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Quote:
If so what is on the engine? 
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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#10
12-20-2015, 10:46 AM
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I think my Car was assembled on New Years Eve. Betty Lou was partying big time along with the boys on the line.
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-- James Work '67 GTO Convertible "Koerner Built 413 500 hp with a Victor!.. I'll run a stock intake." '75 Formula 400 - Daily Driver - Running with my Home Built 455 and TH400 Details here: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=588372 |
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#11
12-21-2015, 12:36 PM
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The 2 I looked at were built at Freemont so I think we are on to something. Thanks for all the replies and have a Merry Christmas!
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#12
12-23-2015, 04:28 PM
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"Was that the eun on the billing card?"
Yes. And numbers on block correspond with of course two additional numbers |
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