Pontiac - Street No question too basic here!

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-20-2021, 09:43 PM
BLUE TA's Avatar
BLUE TA BLUE TA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CENTRAL OR.
Posts: 171
Default group size battery on 2nd gen firebirds

hi i have had a group 78 top post batt in my TA for 10 years. i have a new group 24 that looks like it will fit. what do you all use? i use top post cause i have some 1/0 cables that are really nice. thanks. BLUE TA

  #2  
Old 05-20-2021, 11:45 PM
SS-TA SS-TA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 217
Default

Actually a type 78 Battery is a side terminal design, a type 34 is the top terminal equivalent. You can also buy a dual terminal 34/78 battery. The type 24 battery is a top terminal design that has the same width and depth as a type 34 but is approximately 1 inch taller. The original battery in most 2nd generations was a type 74 which has an identical case as the type 24 but is a side terminal design. I don't know of anyone currently making a type 74 battery.

  #3  
Old 05-21-2021, 12:28 AM
BLUE TA's Avatar
BLUE TA BLUE TA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CENTRAL OR.
Posts: 171
Default

thanks ss ta, great info, yes my 78 is a 78/34 combo. i use the top mount. so the 24 should work. saves more money. boy batterys have gotten quite pricey. thanks again, BLUE TA

  #4  
Old 05-21-2021, 08:19 AM
sdbob sdbob is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Latrobe,Pa. USA
Posts: 2,557
Default

I use the side terminal on my 74 and 73 racecar. 73 bought at NAPA,$$. 74 bought at GM dealer.i have special threaded terminals to disconnect when not in use. To protect against drain if wiring goes bad 40+yrs old.my2cts

  #5  
Old 05-21-2021, 09:22 AM
burd's Avatar
burd burd is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MOTOR CITY
Posts: 1,552
Default

Interstate battery, white spaces, with a Freedom topper from Ames.

  #6  
Old 05-21-2021, 10:26 AM
Formulajones's Avatar
Formulajones Formulajones is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 10,849
Default

I just bought an interstate last night at Costco, group 24F for $89.

On my 70 Formula, being a top post originally, I use a regular group 24

__________________
2019 Pontiac Heaven class winner

https://youtu.be/XqEydRRRwqE
  #7  
Old 05-21-2021, 01:12 PM
BLUE TA's Avatar
BLUE TA BLUE TA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CENTRAL OR.
Posts: 171
Default

great price for a 24f I paid 129.00 for a group 24 yesterday at walmart. I better start looking at costco. LOL BLUE TA

  #8  
Old 05-21-2021, 01:36 PM
formula kid formula kid is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 300
Default

I know that in 1974 the standard battery in FB's was the side mount 78. Depending on which engine you ordered, and what was standard with that engine the CCA changed.

  #9  
Old 05-21-2021, 01:44 PM
unruhjonny's Avatar
unruhjonny unruhjonny is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 6,278
Default

If I recall correctly, side mounts came in 1971 depending on the drivetrain the car had, and were standard fare there after.

__________________
1970 Formula 400
Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
  #10  
Old 05-21-2021, 04:06 PM
burd's Avatar
burd burd is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MOTOR CITY
Posts: 1,552
Default

Side mount in 77 w/ UA1. Before that not sure

  #11  
Old 05-21-2021, 04:06 PM
Formulajones's Avatar
Formulajones Formulajones is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 10,849
Default

Yep side mount was phased in on most GM cars around 1971. My 72 Chevelle is side mount, everything here older than that is top mount with a couple exceptions.

__________________
2019 Pontiac Heaven class winner

https://youtu.be/XqEydRRRwqE
  #12  
Old 05-21-2021, 04:07 PM
Formulajones's Avatar
Formulajones Formulajones is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 10,849
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUE TA View Post
great price for a 24f I paid 129.00 for a group 24 yesterday at walmart. I better start looking at costco. LOL BLUE TA
It was $98 with tax out the door (sticker $89), with my core turned in. That is for the Interstate 24F 3 year free replacement with 700 CCA.

Figured I'd type that out for ya now while it's fresh in my head, because I'll forget all that in a couple more days LOL

__________________
2019 Pontiac Heaven class winner

https://youtu.be/XqEydRRRwqE
  #13  
Old 05-21-2021, 04:14 PM
burd's Avatar
burd burd is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MOTOR CITY
Posts: 1,552
Default

Top posts were thru 1977?

  #14  
Old 05-21-2021, 05:55 PM
77 TRASHCAN's Avatar
77 TRASHCAN 77 TRASHCAN is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 31May2013 Temporary home to the world's widest (that we know of) tornado. Lord, NO more Please...
Posts: 6,596
Default

I've never seen a top post on a GM vehicle past 1972...of course I have NOT seen them all. GM was ALL side post for a long time.
Where I work we have a bunch of GM products. The pickups and suburbans have top posts, the full size vans have side posts, these are 2010 and newer.

__________________
1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A.
I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977.

Shut it off
Shut it off
Buddy, I just shut your Prius down...
  #15  
Old 05-21-2021, 05:56 PM
unruhjonny's Avatar
unruhjonny unruhjonny is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 6,278
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by burd View Post
Top posts were thru 1977?
nope.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Formulajones View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by unruhjonny View Post
If I recall correctly, side mounts came in 1971 depending on the drivetrain the car had, and were standard fare there after.
Yep side mount was phased in on most GM cars around 1971. My 72 Chevelle is side mount, everything here older than that is top mount with a couple exceptions.
There may be the odd exception where top mount was used for a six cylinder car, but GM went to side mount on everything starting I believe by 1972.

__________________
1970 Formula 400
Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
  #16  
Old 05-22-2021, 09:11 PM
1968GTO421's Avatar
1968GTO421 1968GTO421 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Travelers Rest, SC
Posts: 1,286
Default

Of course a post 1971 with top posts can always be a previous owner conversion that looks stock. My brother (Chevelle guy) has encountered this severl times on A-bodies he has bought. He always has to consider leaving it modified (if were done well) or converting back to side mount as GM originally did it. Always fun if he gets a battery salesman who insists on side mount and he shows the dude the top mount set-up.

__________________


"No replacement for displacement!"

GTOAA--https://www.gtoaa.org/
  #17  
Old 05-22-2021, 10:11 PM
BLUE TA's Avatar
BLUE TA BLUE TA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CENTRAL OR.
Posts: 171
Default

Hi guys, I am the second owner, when I bought the car they had a top mount installed allready. then I bought some really nice batt cables, so I,ve stayed with top mounts. I bought two new group 24,s one is in another car and its 800 cca. and the one in the TA is 10 years old. hard to imagine being that old and still cranks the 455 over. I,ve pushed my luck enough. time to change it. thank you all for the great input. BLUE TA

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:05 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017