[PMD1969]

Not sure if its real or right but here's the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...#ht_500wt_1182

[Jeff Hamlin]

Man that's right around my area and I have never seen it before.

[The Boss]

It's real, sequential vin starts with a 6.

[Cammer-6]

"muncie and a council"

Firebirds got the Saggy
a few 69 A bodys got the Muncie

as for a "council",maybe a product of modern schooling

[PMD1969]

Originally Posted by Cammer-6

"muncie and a council"

Firebirds got the Saggy
a few 69 A bodys got the Muncie

as for a "council",maybe a product of modern schooling

That had me guessing too. 4 speeds in Sprints are very rare.

ETA - I asked the seller about the transmission

[camerjeff]

I agree about the Saginaw, the only original Muncie I have ever seen was in the 1st cammer I ever owned, a 69 Sprint Tempest.

If real it should be a 230HP engine with an H-cam if still original. I cant see the front of the engine to see the other 1 year parts, like the timing belt cover, or if it has a large harmonic balancer, or ir that is the correct aircleaner.

[Cammer-6]

Jeff,not 100% confirmed but I heard some 69 A bodys had Muncies and some Saginaws.
Thats why I posted as such.

[Half-Inch Stud]

I expected a chromed Air Filter Lid. Car looks decent.

[camerjeff]

My 69 4-speed Tempest Sprint Definatly had a Muncie M-20 in it.

That was the car that originally hooked mo on Camers. Wish the Michigan winters and the teen aged driver would not have destroyed it!!!!!! Even if it was my least favorate color, Green with a green bench seat interior.

[PMD1969]

Originally Posted by PMD1969

That had me guessing too. 4 speeds in Sprints are very rare.

ETA - I asked the seller about the transmission

Here is his response

The vehicle is all number matching. I looked for my PHS documents tonight and i I can't find them. I will take another look tomorrow.
Dennis 757-719-6146

- dennis5969fb

[Cammer-6]

Originally Posted by PMD1969

Here is his response

The vehicle is all number matching. I looked for my PHS documents tonight and i I can't find them. I will take another look tomorrow.
Dennis 757-719-6146

- dennis5969fb

if its a Muncie it would be a 1st
my moneys on its a saggy

[sprintbird]

Looks like the front cover is the 69 version. I thought all Sprints came with chrome lids? Anyway, another 69 only? feature is the power steering cooler. Is that a Firebird only thing also? A friend of mine and I discussed this earlier this year. Anyone know for sure?

[Cammer-6]

lid should be chrome,same as a 67,68.
PS cooler was for Firebirds(and some big cars),starting in 69 that had high ratio rear ends.
idea was to cool the PS fluid because of high revs.

[camerjeff]

It does have a 69 Air Cleaner, as it has the thermostatic flap to let in heated air to the carb for warm up. And it looks like the lid has had the old hot rodders trick of flipping it upside down. But usually you can still tell its chrome when it is flipped over.

Now I see the small ears on the timing cover for mounting the 69 only rear upper cover, so yes I agree it has the correct 69 cover, I was looking for the 2 mounting bolts (not 3 as the 66-68 cover have) I forgot about that feature. Not a bad looking car, and if I remember correctly they only made around 300 4-speed 69 Sprint FB's

I can not confirm that any Sprints got a PS cooler, my Firebird with a 355 axle does not have one, and my Tempest did not have Power steering, but did have a 390 rear axle. Those are the only 69 Sprints I have owned.
I do know that most Ram Air IV cars got them.

[PMD1969]

Originally Posted by camerjeff

It does have a 69 Air Cleaner, as it has the thermostatic flap to let in heated air to the carb for warm up. And it looks like the lid has had the old hot rodders trick of flipping it upside down. But usually you can still tell its chrome when it is flipped over.

Now I see the small ears on the timing cover for mounting the 69 only rear upper cover, so yes I agree it has the correct 69 cover, I was looking for the 2 mounting bolts (not 3 as the 66-68 cover have) I forgot about that feature. Not a bad looking car, and if I remember correctly they only made around 300 4-speed 69 Sprint FB's

I can not confirm that any Sprints got a PS cooler, my Firebird with a 355 axle does not have one, and my Tempest did not have Power steering, but did have a 390 rear axle. Those are the only 69 Sprints I have owned.
I do know that most Ram Air IV cars got them.

My 69 FB Sprint has the cooler w/355 gears

[sprintbird]

My friend noticed that they were installed on the 69 Firebird Sprints (He saw 2 this summer) and asked if other year/models got the cooler. I am wondering if it was a running change.

[PMD1969]

Originally Posted by sprintbird

My friend noticed that they were installed on the 69 Firebird Sprints (He saw 2 this summer) and asked if other year/models got the cooler. I am wondering if it was a running change.

Look at the post I put up about the Conv Sprint and it has it too.

[PMD1969]

The seller never returned my inquiries and the bidding ended without the reserve at $8100.

I guess he wasn't that serious about selling it.

[Cammer-6]

Originally Posted by PMD1969

The seller never returned my inquiries and the bidding ended without the reserve at $8100.

I guess he wasn't that serious about selling it.

or it could be a way of establishing a baseline price to sell locally
not that the car isnt worth it but surprised that in this dull of a market time,it brought that much.

[Birdguy]

Must have been the "council" that made the difference in price.