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Old 09-16-2023, 08:58 AM
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Amazing car. Congrats!

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Very amazing car with incredible low miles. good gosh

Can only think of 1 other 1971 non-Judge that was ordered with a rear spoiler on the Invoice.
Muscle_Collector , has-or-had , an OrbitO 455HO GTO with Spoiler

A chrome nose car with a factory rear spoiler is a Wild One for the record books..
Can you post the Invoice or original Window Sticker

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Totally jealous, and gorgeous 71!

Enjoy!!

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Very amazing car with incredible low miles. good gosh

Can only think of 1 other 1971 non-Judge that was ordered with a rear spoiler on the Invoice.
Muscle_Collector , has-or-had , an OrbitO 455HO GTO with Spoiler

A chrome nose car with a factory rear spoiler is a Wild One for the record books..
Can you post the Invoice or original Window Sticker
i also had one just like the orbit car but was black on black. both were 3 speed manual trans 455HO cars with vinyl stripes and rear spoilers. jim mattison said they were one of 9 built with the 455HO and 3 speed manual.

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Low mileage, 455 HO, M22, eyebrow stripes and a rear spoiler. That is a special car!

Hope you drive and enjoy it!

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Back home after a nice buff at the car spa.

Some nice detail shots in the engine.



Got to clean up engine bay this.

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Now who would have thought the radiator and air cleaner have the same pick codes. Love that patina look under the hood. Original plug wires?

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Some interesting hose and wires…


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What is the correct measurement for the exhaust tips to stick out beyond the rear valance?

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Old 09-17-2023, 08:22 PM
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Thanks for sharing the Invoice with us.

I'm not sure what the Rule Book should look like regarding the Spoilers , but if a chrome nose car can get one then I guess ANY chrome nose would be eligible , maybe even a 4 door car.

For a long time the consensus was you couldn't order one factory installed on non-Judge cars.
Its becoming more surprising - that we don't see more invoices with them listed.
But we don't

2 GTO's
1 GT-37

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I can see the 2Q on the plug wires with the delay of the '71 start.
482033 is a little late isn't it?

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there was a guy here in town that had a 70 lemans he ordered new and had all the paperwork. it was a 400 4 speed and a rear spoiler.

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I can see the 2Q on the plug wires with the delay of the '71 start.
482033 is a little late isn't it?
The 482033 hose is little late? I’m not versed on these things. What is the application? Seems original to car as does all the engine components.

Since the belts and plugs seem like what came from factory. I believe the oil filter has been changed since there’s a sticker on door jamb.

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Spectacular find!!!

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Old 09-18-2023, 10:22 AM
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NH is correct code upper hose.
Lower would be coded NL.
(info from a 1971 Bsheet)
Practically guaranteed a Bsheet on the gas tank of this car.

2Q of 1970 on the plug wires seems like an oddball ordeal.
But I am not doubting them necessarily.
So they were produced between April May June 1970.

Its a Feb 1971 car built at the main plant PMD
Perhaps the engine date codes are extremely early too.
Plug wires go on the engine before the engine leaves final assembly at PMD engine plant.
So if its an early engine - the plug wires would be early too.
As one explanation

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Best location for an original small style Pontiac plant build sheet is under the front floor covering, usually close to the hump. not sure I'd hazard removing the entire front rubber floor material. On a mission, the front seat could be removed, alum sill moldings removed, then the rubber material carefully lifted with pieces of stiff cardboard. Originally, the front rubber floor material was not glued down, it can be fragile.

With the prolonged Fall strike, not out of line for a mid winter build to have 2nd Qtr of '70 plug wires, I've yet to run across 3rd quarter 70 plug wires.

Todd, on the rear spoiler, there are numerous other '71 GT-37's that have been invoiced out w tha option. Believe it was also a factory installe option, for a while, on '71 LeMans Sport converts. When it gets reqlly cold & I have- little more free time, will go though the atacks of original paperwork.

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Some of you guys will remember the White 1971 WT7 Judge , that was covered in various wild air brush artwork and bought on eBay by PY member 1beautifuldaughter.
PMD plant car.
It was high teens or low 20's on mileage and he plucked a mint Bsheet from top of the tank.
He was able to see it with dental mirror and flashlight.
It was so close to one side he didn't have to drop the tank to get it out.
That was Wild

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The 482033 hose is little late?

Sorry. I was thinking 482xxx PN's started in '72. They actually had used 483xxx PN's in '71, I had to look.

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Some of you guys will remember the White 1971 WT7 Judge , that was covered in various wild air brush artwork and bought on eBay by PY member 1beautifuldaughter.
PMD plant car.
It was high teens or low 20's on mileage and he plucked a mint Bsheet from top of the tank.
He was able to see it with dental mirror and flashlight.
It was so close to one side he didn't have to drop the tank to get it out.
That was Wild

dr-doug found his on the top of the tank. https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=525819

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