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Pontiac 400 6x head damage
Hey everyone. I have a set of Pontiac heads that were damaged due to something getting dropped into the engine. It caused severe pitting on the heads as the piston slapped those objects. I don't know how to add a picture here. But if you email email at edozogar@aol.com I could send you pictures of the heads. Need advise. The local machine shops want $35 a head just to look at them and evaluate. Rip off.
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What do you plan to use them on? The same engine that they came off of?
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If you are loading pictures from your phone they must be magnified X4 when you take your picture. If they are in normal size they will not load. Was this a carburetor screw?
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I will assume that the valve seats got chewed up and the chamber has some good dings and nicks in it.
New seat can be installed to cure that issue , but the chamber needs to be magnafluxed to check for cracks, if it's passes that test then two to three chamber needs to be CCed. If the dings and nicks in the chamber do not add up to more than one CC or so over the other chambers that where checked then I woukd polish off any sharp edges the dings may have and just run the head!
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You would understand if you were the machine shop guy that has to spend an hour of your time cleaning and checking the heads, only to have the customer say they don't want to fix them. Now you have wasted an hour of time you could have been doing something else. Ask me how I know? Been there, done that. Now we charge to check them out. If the customer wants them fixed, then the checking charge goes towards the work.
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No one has looked at the pics of his heads?
Send the pics to me and I'll see if i can post them. johnta1@wallaceracing.com
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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I requested pictures on the first day of his post through the email link he posted. No reply.
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If they are obviously junked, out most good people will tell you that upon initial visual inspection, and not even take them in their shop, because some people likely won't ever pick them up if they are junk. If your serious about the project, get some pics out and take the free help that is available. |
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x2 on what Paul said about time being money. The head must be properly cleaned before maxnaflux check.
And the head in question should be pressure checked as well. |
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Sorry I've not been able to get back on here in awhile. I forwarded pictures on the head damage. Thanks for any help.
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Sorry, sometimes life takes you in un expected direction. I was not able to get back on, laptop died with all my login info and I'm still trying to recover. :-)
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Evil Eddies....
That's a good name for these new E-Heads...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg |
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Wrong you tube link.
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Until you run me. Then we'll talk about it.
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You know children can still understand that potty language......
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Are the 6X's ported?
Are they heavily milled 6X-4's, or run of the mill 6x-8's? Do these heads have relatively new 1 piece stainless valves & a good valve job? Trying to figure where the "value added" is... If the answer is NO, most likely time to start over with another pair of heads. Have a similar chamber pocked 7K3 & a heavily ported 4X-1h that are both making it onto the scrap trailer. In each engine (picked em up for next to nothin) too big a cam was used, valve hit a piston & valve head chunks went bouncing around in a cyl bore. Does beautiful things to a cyl head chamber. My days of setting on both as core charge junk to haul to the local Pick-N-Pull are over.
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Here are the pics of the head and piston:
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yeah it looks like there's some metal stuck in that one piston. I'd probably want to know were it came from because it doesn't look like your average nut or bolt.
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