[Steve C.]

"Talk to Tim, send it down to Bullet."

Worth considering. Tim is great to work with. Years ago I sent him a solid roller cam and after evaluation he was able to be regrind. At the time it was a reasonable $157 plus freight.


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[tom s]

Has anyone on here tried Mike Jones?Tom

[Jay S]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

I guess I am the only one that believes that CR also is a factor?

Stan

Your not only one.

[Skip Fix]

FWIW on single patterns almost all the RAIV SS folks run one. Heck even my 470" 409 made 604HP with only a little 251/251 songle pattern and did nto pick up any using higher ratio rockers on either side.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Steve C.

Stated- "So now what your saying is comp recommending a single pat and cam for 79-80 intake to exhaust ratio, is wrong and Harold is right ! "

Gach, When I spoke with Chris Mays it was in relation to my SPECIFIC combination at the time using a solid roller cam and considering the variables for this specific combination only, NOT the general public.... or any of your combinations !
We discussed, among other topics, my cylinder head parameters, my full exhaust system in use and as I mentioned my very low compression ratio. And the lobe separation involved, which has not been brought into the conversation.
With this I brought up the subject of using a single pattern cam and he agreed with me.

Onward thru the fog.


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I remember your build using that (single pattern) cam and it performed very good. Way above average for the time. You also shared a lot of interesting information from the dyno session.

[Skip Fix]

John Chloe's RAIV Stocker had a 274/274@0.050 HFT.

[Steve C.]

Thanks Paul.
That build was 20 years ago and looking back I don't remember if Chris Mays suggested a single pattern or if he agreed with me.

And it really doesn't matter !

Here is the combination:
https://www.pontiacstreetperformance...455sc2003.html



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[Gach]

Originally Posted by Steve C.

Thanks Paul.
That build was 20 years ago and looking back I don't remember if Chris Mays suggested a single pattern or if he agreed with me.

And it really doesn't matter !

Here is the combination:
https://www.pontiacstreetperformance...455sc2003.html



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Let me see if I got this right, 20 years ago you had enough cam knowledge to suggest to Chris Mays A single Pat cam. Which would suggest you knew more the Chris. It’s just amazing how you flip-flop, I mean the whole reason why you were calling him is for them to design the right cam for you. It’s just all very confusing not someone I would want to take advice from. Hey thanks for your attempt to contribute. The bottom line is Johnny 406 should be calling Tim or Comp cam and really get professional guidance. In doing that he should know exactly what is heads are, what the flow what compression going to be, what the air speed is in the ports and what the intake to exhaust flow ratio is, and what his intentions are with his combo. Thats what the thread should be about guidance on the correct way to go about it. How can anybody make any kind of recommendation when no one has no clue what the heads are.

[Skip Fix]

Gach I agree for the "perfect best guess" cam for the combination call someone at Comp, Bullet ect but heck if you have it toss it in and try it!

[Gach]

Originally Posted by Skip Fix

Gach I agree for the "perfect best guess" cam for the combination call someone at Comp, Bullet ect but heck if you have it toss it in and try it!

I agree if your not happy you can always make a change.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Gach

Let me see if I got this right, 20 years ago you had enough cam knowledge to suggest to Chris Mays A single Pat cam. Which would suggest you knew more the Chris. It’s just amazing how you flip-flop, I mean the whole reason why you were calling him is for them to design the right cam for you. It’s just all very confusing not someone I would want to take advice from. Hey thanks for your attempt to contribute. The bottom line is Johnny 406 should be calling Tim or Comp cam and really get professional guidance. In doing that he should know exactly what is heads are, what the flow what compression going to be, what the air speed is in the ports and what the intake to exhaust flow ratio is, and what his intentions are with his combo. Thats what the thread should be about guidance on the correct way to go about it. How can anybody make any kind of recommendation when no one has no clue what the heads are.

Have you ever gotten anything right?

This only gets confusing when you show up stirring things up.

Stan

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Gach

Let me see if I got this right, 20 years ago you had enough cam knowledge to suggest to Chris Mays A single Pat cam. Which would suggest you knew more the Chris. It’s just amazing how you flip-flop, I mean the whole reason why you were calling him is for them to design the right cam for you. It’s just all very confusing not someone I would want to take advice from. Hey thanks for your attempt to contribute. The bottom line is Johnny 406 should be calling Tim or Comp cam and really get professional guidance. In doing that he should know exactly what is heads are, what the flow what compression going to be, what the air speed is in the ports and what the intake to exhaust flow ratio is, and what his intentions are with his combo. Thats what the thread should be about guidance on the correct way to go about it. How can anybody make any kind of recommendation when no one has no clue what the heads are.

Anyone that answers a phone while being paid could be considered a professional. I reached out to Butler's personal guy for assistance on lobe selection once..... He managed to slow us down a bit. Just because the guy is answering the phone and representing a company doesn't nescessarrily make them smarter than the guy calling..... But you already know all this.

[Gach]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Have you ever gotten anything right?

Stan

Your problem Stan is I got your number. and the majority that reads these knows it. In all you’re really doing is confirming it. By the way are you done with your apprenticeship with David Vizard..lol. Ok lets see The popcorn emoji.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Gach

Your problem Stan is I got your number. and the majority that reads these knows it. In all you’re really doing is confirming it. By the way are you done with your apprenticeship with David Vizard..lol. Ok lets see The popcorn emoji.

I am not sure what my being good friends with and a business partner of David Vizard has to do with any of this.

Stan

PS If you have my number please call. lol

[Gach]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

I am not sure what my being good friends with and a business partner of David Vizard has to do with any of this.

Stan

That’s OK Stan someday the light will come on. Being friends and using someone’s reputation, is two different things.

[Gach]

It’s pretty obvious Stan it’s been going on for quite some time, you have this obsession to critique anything I have to contribute. So far you’ve contributed absolutely nothing oh wait a minute you did you did. Am I the only one that thinks compression has anything to do with picking a cam. I mean come on even a second grader knows that. Here’s my solution for you Stan block me trust me it will get rid of all your anxiety.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Gach

That’s OK Stan someday the light will come on. Being friends and using someone’s reputation, is two different things.

It is time for me to listen to that old internet saying.

Don't feed the Troll

Stan

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Gach

It’s pretty obvious Stan it’s been going on for quite some time, you have this obsession to critique anything I have to contribute. So far you’ve contributed absolutely nothing oh wait a minute you did you did. Am I the only one that thinks compression has anything to do with picking a cam. I mean come on even a second grader knows that. Here’s my solution for you Stan block me trust me it will get rid of all your anxiety.

Still stirring the pot. That had to do with duration split. And only Jay said yes.

Stan

[Gach]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

It is time for me to listen to that old internet saying.

Don't feed the Troll

Stan

Look in the mirror on my friend. LOL come on put your popcorn emoji up. Time to retreat. God even I could come up with a better one than that.

[Gach]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Still stirring the pot. That had to do with duration split. And only Jay said yes.

Stan

Stan…Make it up as you go a long