[Ray Cox]

Someone may have already figured this out but I couldn't find any info on it. So I figured I would share. Might work on 1 st gen also not sure.

afco makes 2 conversion parts to bolt an afco coil over into the factory control arms on a 2 nd gen Ta. I had thought qa1 was the only bolt in.

The bottom is a direct fit however I think some reinforcing will be needed on the lower arm where it bolts in just to be safe. See the pic below.

The top is also a direct fit no drilling or changes. The pic below shows the adapter but I don't have the rubber grommets yet. Also they say to use washers for the snap ring wich I don't like so I am making an aluminum ring with a snap ring grove like the rod end has. I will post a pic when it is done

Basically this kit would convert any set of coil overs to bolt right in to a 2nd gen car with no mods to the car or arms.

I know it's not a big deal with tubular arms, but some classes don't allow frame mods or tubular arms. Not to mention they are $1.000.00. And have no performance advantage except a weight loss.

This afco conversion vs my springs and shocks will save me about 18 lbs total. Plus the performance advantage. The upper control arm factory is 7lbs 2 oz the tubular is 4lbs 4oz so not much savings in weight and nothing in performance. The lower control arm is 15 lbs 3 oz factory and 9 lbs tubular so very minimal weight loss for a 1 k item.

[Ray Cox]

Top mount

[Ray Cox]

There are a few other little tricks and mods to it I will take some pics as I get them done.

[LiL Jack]

A lot of people have found that there is not enough stored energy compared to a coil spring and the car will work better with a coil spring then the coil over.

[hojs69]

Not mine, but I did the same idea.

[Ray Cox]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

A lot of people have found that there is not enough stored energy compared to a coil spring and the car will work better with a coil spring then the coil over.

That's interesting.

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

A lot of people have found that there is not enough stored energy compared to a coil spring and the car will work better with a coil spring then the coil over.

Im changing over from the qa1 coil over sping to a conventional Santhuff spring right now. you need a really good shock to control it though.

[Ray Cox]

I am trying to get in touch with roades to get his help but I think he is too busy. I have Afco's for it. I don't really have a ballerina budget like little jack for the santhuff shocks but I could probably do santuff springs. Dwight said he is doing that also.

[bankbook]

How did you make out?

[Vengeance Race Engines]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

A lot of people have found that there is not enough stored energy compared to a coil spring and the car will work better with a coil spring then the coil over.

This^^^^ x2

I have been saying that for a long time and not just because of the stored energy thing. front coil overs, to me, are very application specific. The only thing I actually like with them is the simplicity of ride height adjustments in the front, but agree they are not the best way to go in most setups.

[Ray Cox]

I ended up going a different route havent had a chance to put these up for sale yet but i wont need them.

[taff2]

Coilovers should work fine on the front if the shocks are long enough. I find most coilovers are too short and the springs you have to use to stop them bottoming out don't have enough stored energy/travel.