#1  
Old 09-27-2022, 10:51 PM
Scott Roberts Scott Roberts is offline
Suspended
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,181
Default CV-1 FOR THE WIN

Randy Belehar won the StreetRace Big Block power adder class at drag week..
68 Firebird, leaf spring suspension, stock subframe, 3500lbs race weight, CV-1 heads( unported exhaust ports) with CVI-1R 2pc manifold (unported)511c.i. Pump/E85 capable, N20 Fogger 1 stage, EFI, TH400 with drag radials..
This one should hurt some feelings..lol
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Resized_2(1).jpg
Views:	396
Size:	49.2 KB
ID:	599425   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0061.jpg
Views:	325
Size:	30.8 KB
ID:	599426   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0115.jpg
Views:	323
Size:	43.9 KB
ID:	599427   Click image for larger version

Name:	View_rece.jpg
Views:	275
Size:	44.6 KB
ID:	599428  

The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Scott Roberts For This Useful Post:
  #2  
Old 09-28-2022, 12:44 AM
Dragncar Dragncar is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Humbolt County California
Posts: 8,284
Default

Cool, Pontiac won.
What did it run ? MPH weight ?

  #3  
Old 09-28-2022, 01:36 AM
Scott Roberts Scott Roberts is offline
Suspended
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,181
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragncar View Post
Cool, Pontiac won.
What did it run ? MPH weight ?
3500lbs race weight and average was 8.54-5 I believe..
Thought you didn't like the cv-1's? Didn't u bash them for years? Car went a 9.1 on motor when testing..

The Following User Says Thank You to Scott Roberts For This Useful Post:
  #4  
Old 09-28-2022, 02:37 AM
Dragncar Dragncar is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Humbolt County California
Posts: 8,284
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Roberts View Post
3500lbs race weight and average was 8.54-5 I believe..
Thought you didn't like the cv-1's? Didn't u bash them for years? Car went a 9.1 on motor when testing..
What does it matter if I like them are not ? The guy made 917 HP with a 9-1 motor, that pretty good.
Congratulations.

  #5  
Old 09-28-2022, 03:15 AM
Scott Roberts Scott Roberts is offline
Suspended
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,181
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragncar View Post
What does it matter if I like them are not ? The guy made 917 HP with a 9-1 motor, that pretty good.
Congratulations.
I'm not even gonna smack u down over this.. only because i want to see this thread play out..

  #6  
Old 09-28-2022, 06:31 AM
25stevem's Avatar
25stevem 25stevem is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 1,744
Default

How much of a Hp shot was the NOS set to add?

__________________
I do stuff for reasons.
  #7  
Old 09-28-2022, 06:57 AM
Scott Roberts Scott Roberts is offline
Suspended
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,181
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 25stevem View Post
How much of a Hp shot was the NOS set to add?
Not up to me to divulge that. Let's just say there's a lot more in the car than an 8.50.. that was the bump spot for that class though..

  #8  
Old 09-28-2022, 08:26 AM
Mr_GTO's Avatar
Mr_GTO Mr_GTO is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Sarasota FL
Posts: 3,005
Default

Nice to see any Pontiac win regardless of which heads are on it.

The Following User Says Thank You to Mr_GTO For This Useful Post:
  #9  
Old 09-28-2022, 08:42 AM
scott70's Avatar
scott70 scott70 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: maine
Posts: 2,220
Default

How about " pontiac firebird for the win" ?

__________________
72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007
(cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD
1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86'
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to scott70 For This Useful Post:
  #10  
Old 09-28-2022, 08:51 AM
Scott Roberts Scott Roberts is offline
Suspended
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,181
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scott70 View Post
How about " pontiac firebird for the win" ?
Sure, that too. However, just want to make it clear it's a chitty old CV-1 engine doing it..
You know, the one that can't make power and has valve train issues along with intake distribution issues.. yeah, the one that made the 1000 mile trip with no issues and won the class.. the CV-1 powered Pontiac Firebird if you will..
Better?

The Following User Says Thank You to Scott Roberts For This Useful Post:
  #11  
Old 09-28-2022, 09:16 AM
mgarblik mgarblik is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 6,035
Default

This win should be celebrated, and I am glad it is. Open the hood and what do you see? Not a SBC, or an LS engine. Great win.

The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to mgarblik For This Useful Post:
  #12  
Old 09-28-2022, 10:18 AM
Elarson's Avatar
Elarson Elarson is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 2,800
Default

Awesome accomplishment!

One thing we learned about nitrous......it does not offer unlimited power. Each head has a limit after which it doesn't matter what size the jets are or how many stages are used.

Eric

__________________
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" noted philosopher Mike Tyson

Life begins at the end of your comfort zone.

“The mind, once stretched by a new idea, never returns to its original dimensions.”
The Following User Says Thank You to Elarson For This Useful Post:
  #13  
Old 09-28-2022, 10:35 AM
Scott Roberts Scott Roberts is offline
Suspended
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,181
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elarson View Post
Awesome accomplishment!

One thing we learned about nitrous......it does not offer unlimited power. Each head has a limit after which it doesn't matter what size the jets are or how many stages are used.

Eric
Agreed..at a point it's dimensioning returns.. Randy's not there yet.

  #14  
Old 09-28-2022, 12:19 PM
scott70's Avatar
scott70 scott70 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: maine
Posts: 2,220
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mgarblik View Post
This win should be celebrated, and I am glad it is. Open the hood and what do you see? Not a SBC, or an LS engine. Great win.
Exactly.

__________________
72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007
(cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD
1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86'
  #15  
Old 09-28-2022, 01:11 PM
Sirrotica's Avatar
Sirrotica Sirrotica is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Catawba Ohio
Posts: 7,194
Default

When Jim first made the CV 1 heads I spent a weekend at Norwalk in the manufacturers midway with our T Shirt booth set up next to his booth. I looked the heads over quite well during that weekend, and he, and I spoke a good bit about the new innovative heads.

I never saw why all the animosity on this site that was directed at a new product like was directed at the CV 1 heads. It's basically a Ford design that he adapted to Pontiac heads. He didn't start with an unproved entity, he started with something that had worked for other manufacturers.

There have been other cars with CV 1 heads that have ran well over the years, but just the mention of them here raised a chitstorm of negativity.

Anyway, I'm glad someone was able to make a statement for the much maligned cylinder head program, congratulations to the guys that made it happen..........

__________________
Brad Yost
1973 T/A (SOLD)
2005 GTO
1984 Grand Prix

100% Pontiacs in my driveway!!! What's in your driveway?

If you don't take some of the RACETRACK home with you, Ya got cheated

  #16  
Old 09-28-2022, 01:43 PM
johnta1's Avatar
johnta1 johnta1 is online now
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: now sunny Florida!
Posts: 21,237
Default

Congrats to Randy!
That is an awesome accomplishment, with CV-1, icing on the cake.



__________________
John Wallace - johnta1
Pontiac Power RULES !!!
www.wallaceracing.com

Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova
Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats

KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever!


"Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts."

"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates
  #17  
Old 09-28-2022, 02:03 PM
Scott Roberts Scott Roberts is offline
Suspended
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,181
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirrotica View Post
When Jim first made the CV 1 heads I spent a weekend at Norwalk in the manufacturers midway with our T Shirt booth set up next to his booth. I looked the heads over quite well during that weekend, and he, and I spoke a good bit about the new innovative heads.

I never saw why all the animosity on this site that was directed at a new product like was directed at the CV 1 heads. It's basically a Ford design that he adapted to Pontiac heads. He didn't start with an unproved entity, he started with something that had worked for other manufacturers.

There have been other cars with CV 1 heads that have ran well over the years, but just the mention of them here raised a chitstorm of negativity.

Anyway, I'm glad someone was able to make a statement for the much maligned cylinder head program, congratulations to the guys that made it happen..........
There have been several.. there's a lot more out running hard that don't post on the net.. I've been a fan of the cv1 since it came out.. just felt like it never got a fair shake. Also feel like it got a bad rap from some of the guys that cut corners and blamed the head..

  #18  
Old 09-28-2022, 03:08 PM
Dragncar Dragncar is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Humbolt County California
Posts: 8,284
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Roberts View Post
I'm not even gonna smack u down over this.. only because i want to see this thread play out..
917 HP is right in line with what Krull did with E heads on pump gas years ago. Made 914 hp.
Its a free country, whatever floats your boat and no Chevy in it.
I call it a win.

  #19  
Old 09-28-2022, 03:22 PM
Scott Roberts Scott Roberts is offline
Suspended
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,181
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragncar View Post
917 HP is right in line with what Krull did with E heads on pump gas years ago. Made 914 hp.
Its a free country, whatever floats your boat and no Chevy in it.
I call it a win.
Looks like someone's kicking rocks..lol
So was that ehead un ported exhaust and un ported intake? What ci was it? 511 or less? This motor was set up to be pretty mild in order to make the 1000 mile trip.. was the ehead? Was this ehead motor running 9.11 e.t.'s with a nitrous cam
On nuts?
Not familiar with the Krull engine.. feel free to fill in the blanks if it doesn't hurt too bad..

  #20  
Old 09-28-2022, 04:03 PM
Dragncar Dragncar is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Humbolt County California
Posts: 8,284
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Roberts View Post
Looks like someone's kicking rocks..lol
So was that ehead un ported exhaust and un ported intake? What ci was it? 511 or less? This motor was set up to be pretty mild in order to make the 1000 mile trip.. was the ehead? Was this ehead motor running 9.11 e.t.'s with a nitrous cam
On nuts?
Not familiar with the Krull engine.. feel free to fill in the blanks if it doesn't hurt too bad..
There is a old thread on Krulls combo somewhere here. Others have done it too.
Randy has fine fine, well thought out combo.
Its apples to oranges with a un-ported Victor vs 2 piece race intake though.
How mild is his cam ? Do you know what his static CR is ? MPH ?
He did his homework for his combo that is for sure.

Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:03 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017