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Old 12-12-2018, 11:05 PM
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see here i thought Functional mean the thinner non-TA tings...

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Here's a 70 non gauge package W/AC from a Norwood Esprit. Light color wood grain, raised ribs around gauge pod openings, thin trim rings, and very thin trim ring for gas gauge (thinner than the AC ones).




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Old 12-13-2018, 03:06 PM
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great pictures!

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Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
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Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Very nice piece

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I wasn't referring to the very thin Formula rings, but thanks for posting to show the difference. Good view of the stamped, raised edges.

What's crazy is that there is also a midsized ring.
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Old 12-14-2018, 10:24 AM
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I have a March build 70, black bezels. I also have a May build 70, it has the chrome bezels. It spent 35 years in a collectors shed, so I assume it is correct

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Old 12-14-2018, 11:18 PM
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Anybody know when the changeover from black to chrome was? My '70 was built third week of Feb, 1970 and still has the square stamping in the door jambs.
As best I can tell after looking through all of my notes/pictures on '70 T/As, Norwood cars started getting the chrome rings beginning around 03D body dates, and Van Nuys cars were later -- seems like around 05C-ish for those. So I would expect a February 1970 car to have the black rings regardless of which plant it came from.

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But here's an early, said to be unrestored original, car with both! I've also noticed that non A/C cars can have the bezel bird in two different locations as well.
Interestingly, the car built ~10 units ahead of the one you posted the picture of (both are Van Nuys car in the L1030XX range) was built exactly the same way. Picture of it is below. They are the only ones I've ever seen that way. Too much of a coincidence for them not to have been built that way. It's anybody's guess why....
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Old 12-15-2018, 12:48 AM
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weird!!

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1970 Formula 400
Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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So, we've found another interesting anomaly.

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Just to chime it, my 1970 03C built Norwood T/A has black bezels.

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