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Old 07-20-2015, 11:25 PM
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Here are a few pics of the shortblock. We'll shoot a few more of the finished engine later this week......Cliff
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Old 07-23-2015, 06:48 AM
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Watching your project with interest. What kind of pickup is on the oil pump? I used your set screw mod on my oil pump in my 455.

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Old 07-23-2015, 09:38 AM
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It's for the Moroso 7qt baffled oil pan. I NEVER use stock pans these days, the aftermarket pans are that much better.....Cliff

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It's for the Moroso 7qt baffled oil pan. I NEVER use stock pans these days, the aftermarket pans are that much better.....Cliff
Cliff,
Do you remember which part number (they may not make more than one 7 qt pan...)?

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Old 07-24-2015, 06:41 AM
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I see we've stirred up the natives again, you can't even make a typo on here without someone getting their panties all wadded up about it. I guess when you get the level I'm at with this hobby, there will ALWAYS be someone lurking in the shadows looking for a flaw in your armor so they can bust your balls about it. Bothers me not in the least...FWIW.

BTW, IF you can't put up something productive to help the readers, then the moderators should make sure you stay off my thread....FWIW.

Then there are those who simply can't read, that we ALWAYS list our cars race weight WITH driver, so if my big-dumb-ars is driving, subtract 240lbs from whatever number I put up there.....tks.....Cliff

PS: while you guys are dissecting my posts under your microscope, look back thru this thread. Let's have some fun here. There is a SERIOUS discrepancy with something that was put in one of the responses. It completely defies the laws of physics, and so far the only flaw anyone has found was my typo about how hard the cam coating was, when the big "goof" goes unnoticed.....

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And I'm trying to add some humor here. It probably could use it


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Just keep your teflon suit on and carry on. The more things change, the more they stay the same...

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I hear ya and thanks. About the only fun I have with these things is that I live on the East Coast, and get to do some ball-busting at least 3 hours BEFORE most of my "fan club" will have anything to say about it.

I'm still looking for a winner here, as somewhere in this thread there is some information in print that is high flawed and makes no sense at all, and no one has questioned it yet?.......Cliff

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I hear ya and thanks. About the only fun I have with these things is that I live on the East Coast, and get to do some ball-busting at least 3 hours BEFORE most of my "fan club" will have anything to say about it.

I'm still looking for a winner here, as somewhere in this thread there is some information in print that is high flawed and makes no sense at all, and no one has questioned it yet?.......Cliff
There are a couple of posters on here that are on my lengthy ignore list so I don't read anything they post. I'm having a little bet with myself that it's one of those guys.

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The Rockwell Scale was invented in 1908 by two men, Hugh Rockwell and Stanley Rockwell (no relation).

See how aluminum (Ford) is lower than steel (GM)? See?


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x2 with the Teflon suit! Great thread as usual!

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How much does coating cost? Hard to believe coating a flat-tappet is significantly cheaper than going roller, but I really have no idea.

It's not just the piss-poor lifters. OHC cam in my truck is losing two lobes just a few hundred miles after new engine break-in. Should have put some ZDDP additives in it.
Is this what you're talking about Cliff?

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No, but I'll provide a hint. It's very early in the thread.......Cliff

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MD, the rule of thumb for compression vs cam choice is one full point for every 10 degrees. So if I build a 400 at 9.5 to 1 compression that's got a cam in it around 220 intake/230 exhaust (for example), that makes it really happy everyplace, I need to go up about 10 degrees with the same engine if I build it at 10.5 to 1 compression.
I believe you meant 20 degrees per point of compression, not 10.

At 10 degrees per point with a 225 degree average cam, you'd need 22.5 to 1 compression.......

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Most boards I'm on, blatant ad hominem attacks get you banned.

(Attacking the person and not the idea.)

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