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#1
11-25-2016, 04:58 PM
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Reclining Seats
Does anyone have any experience with taking these apart? When I got this car the seat would not recline. I have taken it all apart. I have lubed the actuator cable which now works freely. I have taken the main cylinder ( I'm assuming that it works like an air shock does ? ), out of the seat frame. I can't get the extension rod to come out of the assembly. I have soaked it for a week in Mystery Oil and still nothing. The cylinder itself looks self enclosed and I don't think I can take it apart to see what makes it work in there. Any ideas? Does anyone rebuild them? Thanks for any info.
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#2
11-25-2016, 05:22 PM
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need something more agressive than mystery oil..try sea foam deep creep..
theres nothing to them, if the cylinder is stuck, you found the problem
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#3
11-25-2016, 06:19 PM
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Thanks for the info. I didn't think it was rocket science but ya never know with these old bastards. Lol. I was thinking that if it was too bad I'd have to cut it open with a disc and then reweld the cylinder back together, but would rather not try that as I'm sure they are pretty scarce to get being such a rare option.
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#4
11-25-2016, 06:27 PM
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a hair dryer and some deep creep will get it..be careful, the actuator on the cylinder breaks easy
if ya take it apart, you cant get it back together...it prob has a rust spot thats catching in the cylinder... ive had them locked up so bad, it seemed useless, but that deep creep is incredible stuff
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Mark.. The Goat whisperer "I spent a lot of my money on booze, crazy women, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
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#5
11-25-2016, 08:31 PM
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Can that CYL be removed while the seat stays in the car?
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#6
11-25-2016, 08:52 PM
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I would say no to that question. You have to peel back the skins to be able to get to it. I had to recover mine, so it didn't matter. I had to take the whole seats apart.
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#7
11-25-2016, 10:44 PM
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I had the same issue with my reclining seat. I soaked the cylinder in Evaporust for a week and I was able to free it up after that.
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#8
11-27-2016, 05:59 PM
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Restored my seats awhile ago, all is great except for that locked up CYL. Maybe this winter huh
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#9
05-01-2018, 10:04 PM
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Just pulled my seats completely apart. I have never seen the reclining option that the passengers seat has. I have the cylinder out of the seat, not sure how to test it. I have feeling its stuck. was trying to figure out how it worked
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#10
05-01-2018, 11:08 PM
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theres a great section in the body by fisher manual on how to work on them...i believe the 69 or 70 manual..i had it scanned once and cant find it...
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Mark.. The Goat whisperer "I spent a lot of my money on booze, crazy women, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
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#11
05-02-2018, 06:51 AM
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Amazing how many extra parts are in there compared to a std seat. I have the 68 fisher manual, just looked after reading your post and it has info on the reclining option, but no specific info on the cylinder. Thanks for the tip, I didn't realize that info was in a book at had right at my fingertips
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#12
05-02-2018, 02:38 PM
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A good way to test the cylinder is to install it back in the seat frame and test it out. Reclining seat needs the lever to be pulled to recline the seat but it will return to upright without having to pull the lever.
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops) 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop) 1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop) 1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon 1969 Executive 4dr Sedan 1969 Bonnie Cvt 1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them) 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them) 1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model) |
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#13
05-02-2018, 06:49 PM
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I have my seats completely apart, I bead blasted & repainted the bases & all the hinges.
I put the cylinder in the vise & was able to pull the rod out, but it doesn't lock. Just pops right back in. is it infinitely adjustable, or does the internal rod have notches in it? Maybe I didn't pull it out far enough. Damn strong spring in that bugger. 
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68 GTO 4-spd Convertible 78 S/E Trans am L78, WS6 Auto 78 S/E Trans am W72, WS6 Auto 79 10th aniv W72 Trans am 80 Indy pace car Trans am 89 Trans am GTA |
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#14
05-02-2018, 06:59 PM
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Now, if I could only find four of these unicorn antlers......
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68 GTO 4-spd Convertible 78 S/E Trans am L78, WS6 Auto 78 S/E Trans am W72, WS6 Auto 79 10th aniv W72 Trans am 80 Indy pace car Trans am 89 Trans am GTA |
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05-04-2018, 06:31 AM
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Anybody know if those escutcheons were used on any other cars? I was looking again & seems like I will probably have to paint the metal retainer so it looks sorta finished?
Guessing its a one year only design & not many 68's had the head rests it would seem.
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68 GTO 4-spd Convertible 78 S/E Trans am L78, WS6 Auto 78 S/E Trans am W72, WS6 Auto 79 10th aniv W72 Trans am 80 Indy pace car Trans am 89 Trans am GTA |
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#16
05-04-2018, 09:00 AM
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there where alot of 68 head rest cars...more than you can imagine..i know ive had so many ive lost count..always out of big cars..i have never pulled a set from an a body
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Mark.. The Goat whisperer "I spent a lot of my money on booze, crazy women, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
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#17
05-04-2018, 09:01 AM
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That’s two nice options mine doesn’t have, so I’m no help with reclining seat and head rests.
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Don't rush me - it's only year 20 of the 3 year restoration! 68 GTO convertible YS M40, A/C, PS, PB-disc, Posi-T, PW, P-seat, AM-FM stereo 8-track, P-ant, P-trunk lid, Tilt-S, Rally gauges, Hideaways C1 224 Triple white |
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#18
05-04-2018, 07:20 PM
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Yeap, i need 4 nice escuteons (e-croutons). maybe there is a way to wrap the sheetmetal in naugyhyde (vinyl)?
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#19
05-05-2018, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
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#20
05-05-2018, 01:54 PM
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So I am testing this cylinder. Its not stuck at all. I can't extract the rod without turning the lever on the side of it. I assume this is how it is suppose to work. If I hold the lever I can extract it, but it will slide right back in. Should it lock? or am I misunderstanding how this works.
Would seem the release lever stops it from pulling out only. Maybe its time to look closer at how the whole thing works. I just wanted to test it before butting anything together
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68 GTO 4-spd Convertible 78 S/E Trans am L78, WS6 Auto 78 S/E Trans am W72, WS6 Auto 79 10th aniv W72 Trans am 80 Indy pace car Trans am 89 Trans am GTA |
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