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Old 01-26-2019, 02:49 PM
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Car originally came with first design rocker moldings and although I still have them, I had a pair of original 2nd design moldings in better shape that I decided to have professionally straightened and polished.

So installing 2nd design rocker moldings on my 67 GTO and the assembly manual shows 2 spacers (part #11) in the drawing. Does anyone have a picture, description, or details on this part?

Also, the drawing shows two retainer brackets that mount to the underside of the rocker.(part #18). Does anyone have measurements on where to mount these?

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Old 01-26-2019, 04:41 PM
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IF mine had them (#11), they fell out long ago or I misplaced them, but I really don't think mine had them.

Kinda like part #9, mine never had the one in the front of the door.

Spacing on the retainer bracket not critical, one about 2" behind where the front of the door is and the other about where the rear of the door opening is.
I can get exact measurements when it warms up a little, if you need.

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Old 01-26-2019, 08:23 PM
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Thanks for the information. I was kind of wondering about that clip also because all the rocker molding reproduction clips kits only have two of that style clip.
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Old 01-26-2019, 11:16 PM
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What is the difference between the first and second design?

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jhnichols2,
Regarding spacers:
I did see those spacers (#11) on my car, unfortunately I don't have a picture. They are like thick plastic washers....probably 5/8 inch diameter, and I think about 1/4 inch thick. The I.D. was perhaps 3/8 inch. They were glued onto the trim with some sort of caulking or adhesive....kinda glopped on.

Regarding the two #18 clips...I'm wondering if both first and second style used those clips? I'll bet the screw holes could be found on the underside of your rockers...
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1st gen rocker trim edge is folded like a "C" shape on the entire upper edge. So the edge of the rocker trim was right at the door opening where shoes would catch this edge when getting in and out of the car.
The second version trim edges at the door opening areas are 90 degree flaps that fasten directly to the body in the door opening with exposed trim screws. It fit tight so no more catching with shoes.

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squidtone,
Thanks for the description.

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I wonder if they are like the spacers under the seat shields??
White plastic ones

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Pictures showing the difference between 1st and 2nd design.
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Awesome, thanks for the explaination. My car was built the 4th week of November, 1966 at the Pontiac, MI plant and it has the second design molding. I guess it’s safe to say the first design was pretty short lived, huh?

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The only way to tell is to feed a small pencil camera in the in side of the rockers and look for filled in holes. Most redone cars were filled and second version installed.

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