Exhaust TECH Mufflers, Headers and Pipes Issues

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-09-2023, 02:49 PM
T.Weber's Avatar
T.Weber T.Weber is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: California
Posts: 430
Default Using graphite spray on exhaust manifolds

I was wondering if anyone has tried using graphite spray on their exhaust manifolds? I saw it used on a couple of youtube videos, thought it looked good so I gave it a try and really liked the results. It's a couple of shades darker than as cast - cast iron but looks good enough for me. Not to mention there's no need to bead or sand blast them before using. Just wire brush, clean with Brake Cleaner, spray with Graphite spray lube, let dry & wipe down. (I used PB Blaster Graphite Dry Lubricant $6.58 at Home Depot) one 5.5 oz can easily did both exhaust manifolds. My motor is still out of the car so I can't say how well it will hold up.

Off the car - wire brush, clean & spray, let dry wipe down & install
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nt75-4bzI8&t=48s

New cast iron manifold castings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqh22Pafzag&t=344s

Old manifolds done on the car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHXm5Hxijw4&t=189s

My manifolds I did - the as cast Master Cylinder is there for color comparison. Any comments good & bad are appreciated. Be honest - you can't hurt my feelings - I don't have any.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN2045.jpg
Views:	133
Size:	48.8 KB
ID:	624715   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN2046.jpg
Views:	145
Size:	46.0 KB
ID:	624716   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN2050.jpg
Views:	214
Size:	48.6 KB
ID:	624717  

  #2  
Old 12-09-2023, 03:50 PM
Shiny's Avatar
Shiny Shiny is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Centennial CO
Posts: 1,909
Default

I like it. Nice job!

I used something similar about 15 yrs ago.....was a paste as I recall.

I don't know how well it will protect against corrosion long term (probably not great), but it's easy to touch up and I like the look better than paint and way better than rusty iron.

  #3  
Old 12-09-2023, 04:03 PM
Stuart's Avatar
Stuart Stuart is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 7,938
Default

Kind of like the old school method of using wood stove polish, which has graphite as the main ingredient.

  #4  
Old 12-09-2023, 04:05 PM
b-man's Avatar
b-man b-man is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sunny So Cal
Posts: 16,460
Default

The jury’s out until you’ve put some miles on them.

Anything you paint onto exhaust manifolds or headers will look good before you run them

Hopefully they’ll look good after a few years, if not then it’s just some labor to get them off and a small outlay for a different product to get them redone.

__________________
1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42
1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/2.56
2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23
  #5  
Old 12-09-2023, 04:48 PM
tjs72lemans tjs72lemans is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Winona, MN
Posts: 1,158
Default

I used the paint by brush method with the Eastwood can paint. 2500 miles later, they look as good as day I did them.

  #6  
Old 12-09-2023, 06:00 PM
bluejudge bluejudge is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 279
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny View Post
I like it. Nice job!

I used something similar about 15 yrs ago.....was a paste as I recall.

I don't know how well it will protect against corrosion long term (probably not great), but it's easy to touch up and I like the look better than paint and way better than rusty iron.
That might have been Calyx?

  #7  
Old 12-09-2023, 06:19 PM
Shiny's Avatar
Shiny Shiny is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Centennial CO
Posts: 1,909
Default

Yes, that sounds like the product. Thank you.

  #8  
Old 12-09-2023, 10:39 PM
Stuart's Avatar
Stuart Stuart is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 7,938
Default

One benefit of using products like graphite/Calyx/stove polish/etc. is that if and when the manifolds start looking scruffy, you can just reapply more. No real preparation is needed.

  #9  
Old 12-10-2023, 01:24 AM
Jack Gifford's Avatar
Jack Gifford Jack Gifford is offline
formerly 'Pontiac Jack'
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Phelps, NY 14532
Posts: 10,182
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tjs72lemans View Post
I used the paint by brush method with the Eastwood can paint...
Which Eastwood product?

__________________
Anybody else on this planet campaign a M/T hemi Pontiac for eleven seasons?
... or has built a record breaking DOHC hemi four cylinder Pontiac?
... or has driven a couple laps of Nuerburgring with Tri-Power Pontiac power?(back in 1967)
  #10  
Old 12-10-2023, 01:43 AM
Stuart's Avatar
Stuart Stuart is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 7,938
Default

It appears Eastwood only has one high temp coating for exhausts these days: https://www.eastwood.com/paints/hi-t...st-paints.html Years ago they had a product with stainless steel in it that left an as cast look. I used it on my car with good results but it's not in their catalog anymore.

  #11  
Old 12-10-2023, 05:45 AM
dataway's Avatar
dataway dataway is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Saratoga NY
Posts: 8,943
Default

I think people have been using "Slip Plate" graphite products for a while now on exhaust manifolds. They make an aerosol and a brush on. I've used it for years on my snow thrower chute. No idea how it holds up on exhaust though.

__________________
I'm World's Best Hyperbolist !!
  #12  
Old 12-10-2023, 10:17 AM
78w72 78w72 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: iowa
Posts: 4,722
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Gifford View Post
Which Eastwood product?
The makers of POR-15 have the same type of high heat manifold coating too. I used it on turbo exhaust manifolds and wastegate thats lasted for 10+ years. Looks like fresh cast iron.

The Following User Says Thank You to 78w72 For This Useful Post:
  #13  
Old 12-12-2023, 06:35 PM
tjs72lemans tjs72lemans is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Winona, MN
Posts: 1,158
Default

I just looked since it's been a few years. Yes, it's POR 15. Great stuff.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20231212_162311[1].jpg
Views:	117
Size:	34.9 KB
ID:	624872  

The Following User Says Thank You to tjs72lemans For This Useful Post:
  #14  
Old 12-12-2023, 10:27 PM
gtospieg gtospieg is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,253
Default

I used POR 15's exhaust manifold paint(followed all the instructions) and it started flaking off almost immediately. The RA manifolds were brand new at the time.

  #15  
Old 12-13-2023, 10:35 AM
78w72 78w72 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: iowa
Posts: 4,722
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gtospieg View Post
I used POR 15's exhaust manifold paint(followed all the instructions) and it started flaking off almost immediately. The RA manifolds were brand new at the time.
Strange for that to happen, must have been an issue with the prep or application or maybe a defective can. Never heard of POR high temp flaking off "immediately"... mine & everyone I know of thats used it has lasted for years, mine is at 12-13 years on turbo cast iron manifolds & wastegate with only some light signs of rust stains coming through in a few areas after all that time.

VHT spray can is supposed to be pretty good too, I knew a guy with an olds or buick at the drag strip with the blue VHT paint on headers, he came to the track for 3-4 years and we had a rivalry racing each other, it ran low 11's... the headers looked great every year I saw them, the car was street driven and did lots of runs at the track. I plan to try it when I do a clean up & repaint of the engine in my 78 that has the silver color POR header paint flaking off after about 15 years, easier to clean & mask them off than removing to recoat.

  #16  
Old 12-13-2023, 08:03 PM
tstroud tstroud is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Iowa
Posts: 148
Default

I’ve had both results with POR15 manifold paint.
Twice I did a set of SBC rams horn manifolds. They were sandblasted, handled with rubber gloves, washed with lacquer thinner and painted with a brush. Then left to dry for a couple days. Both times they flaked off and rusted in less than a year.
I also did a set of RARE ram air manifolds with the same procedure except I baked them in an old electric oven. They are holding up great so far 4 years later. They only have about 1000 miles on them now so time will tell.

  #17  
Old 12-13-2023, 08:18 PM
Greg Reid's Avatar
Greg Reid Greg Reid is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Palmetto, GA. USA
Posts: 16,166
Default

I wonder if the silver color of the VHT paint that I used and baked in an industrial oven, according to their instructions, was the problem when I used it? My manifolds surface rusted just sitting outside at my painters for a couple of months.

__________________
Greg Reid
Palmetto, Georgia

  #18  
Old 12-13-2023, 08:51 PM
b-man's Avatar
b-man b-man is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sunny So Cal
Posts: 16,460
Default

How mine looked after 30k miles and 5 years of daily driver use, my first attempt at using POR-15 manifold paint about 24 years ago.

I did use Metal Prep after bead blasting them to clean and etch the bare metal before brushing on the paint. I didn’t bake them before running them on the engine. The manifolds were brand new.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	E20773B1-1992-4106-AA10-341D3A15FE2C.jpg
Views:	114
Size:	49.0 KB
ID:	624911   Click image for larger version

Name:	258A1F74-2A8E-4759-AA2F-B033C7B94A62.jpg
Views:	123
Size:	49.9 KB
ID:	624912  

__________________
1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42
1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/2.56
2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to b-man For This Useful Post:
  #19  
Old 12-14-2023, 02:22 AM
Jack Gifford's Avatar
Jack Gifford Jack Gifford is offline
formerly 'Pontiac Jack'
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Phelps, NY 14532
Posts: 10,182
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Reid View Post
I wonder if the silver color of the VHT paint that I used and baked in an industrial oven, according to their instructions, was the problem when I used it? My manifolds surface rusted just sitting outside at my painters for a couple of months.
The silver color VHT on my lakester's zoomies has held up quite well. They still look almost as good as they did new (in the picture).
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	hemi_four_aug_18.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	93.5 KB
ID:	624934  

__________________
Anybody else on this planet campaign a M/T hemi Pontiac for eleven seasons?
... or has built a record breaking DOHC hemi four cylinder Pontiac?
... or has driven a couple laps of Nuerburgring with Tri-Power Pontiac power?(back in 1967)
The Following User Says Thank You to Jack Gifford For This Useful Post:
  #20  
Old 12-14-2023, 03:30 AM
Greg Reid's Avatar
Greg Reid Greg Reid is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Palmetto, GA. USA
Posts: 16,166
Default

I can't imagine where I went wrong.. I had great faith that choking my co-workers all day was going to be worth it.

__________________
Greg Reid
Palmetto, Georgia

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:31 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017