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Old 02-09-2024, 04:53 PM
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One thing to keep in mind the Northwind was really designed for high ports, to keep everything under the hood, because high ports are almost 1” taller the E-head. So a Victor with high ports needs to be cut down.

The other thing to consider when getting a Northwind is the port opening in the head you have. Because the Northwind comes in different configurations so make sure you order it to match your port opening. Just throwing that out there. Or if your picking up a used one.

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Another thing to remeber, the ports are too high in the manifold itself. That needs to be dealt with if you want to make good power.

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Another thing to remeber, the ports are too high in the manifold itself. That needs to be dealt with if you want to make good power.
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If you are flowing an intake and not using a carb, do you use a radius?

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Definetly that or possibly something else.

But seriously IMO if you find a gain it won't be much. If you can borrow a NW or find a deal on one it'd be fun to try. If your paying full retail plus shipping I'd do something else with your money.

We tested a NW against an RPM on a 630 HP engine. Maybe that guy will chime in. I don't recall the numbers but the RPM definetly looked better for a heavy street car.
I have one sitting on my workbench..got a decent deal on it from a local guy..I've spent more time and money on things to go slower...I'm just very curious. To be fair it would be a port matched Northwind against a Torker 2 with plenum work by Derek Stewart and also runner work by Dave Bisschop and a one inch spacer. I also wonder does this Northwind need a spacer..the top of the runners are very close to the carb mount?

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One thing to keep in mind the Northwind was really designed for high ports, to keep everything under the hood, because high ports are almost 1” taller the E-head. So a Victor with high ports needs to be cut down.

The other thing to consider when getting a Northwind is the port opening in the head you have. Because the Northwind comes in different configurations so make sure you order it to match your port opening. Just throwing that out there. Or if your picking up a used one.
Its pretty close as it sits..I use 228103 intake gaskets and the Northwind matched up pretty good.

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Another thing to remeber, the ports are too high in the manifold itself. That needs to be dealt with if you want to make good power.
I see that..a spacer would help?

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I see that..a spacer would help?
I think it Definitely would help. It has a short plenum.

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Its pretty close as it sits..I use 228103 intake gaskets and the Northwind matched up pretty good.
Who you get the intake from ?

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When Ed got his from KRE to match up to his Wide Ports. Dan Barton ported it for him. But on dyno it definitely need 1” spacer. But his is a street car, and trying to fit it under hood, He had to eliminate the spacer 74 Firebird, says he could make it work by modify the hood scoop. I think the P-Dude one, but was having trouble getting it.

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The Torker 2 has a short runner, when Charlie change over from Torker 1 intake to T-2 he lost a tenth. Crazy

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I see that..a spacer would help?
Just to be clear I'm referring to the port floor is to high. IMO there is little point in using a NW without a spacer if some sort.

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If you are flowing an intake and not using a carb, do you use a radius?

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Hi Stan, yes I usually use a spacer that has a radius on the top or an empty baseplate that that has
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First picture is Ed’s porter Northwind ported by Dan Barton. You can see the difference betwen the floor compared to the Victor ported by Gabby second picture. Not that it applies to you.
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Ed had his power coated, Looks pretty.

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One thing to keep in mind the Northwind was really designed for high ports, to keep everything under the hood, because high ports are almost 1” taller the E-head. So a Victor with high ports needs to be cut down.

The other thing to consider when getting a Northwind is the port opening in the head you have. Because the Northwind comes in different configurations so make sure you order it to match your port opening. Just throwing that out there. Or if your picking up a used one.
For an E head is the victor a better choice? Hood Clearance Aside.

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For an E head is the victor a better choice? Hood Clearance Aside.
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Hi Stan, yes I usually use a spacer that has a radius on the top or an empty baseplate that that has
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Thanks. What I have found interesting is just how much of a choke point some carbs can be.

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Fwiw the NW is 9ci smaller in plenum vs Victor.
NW doesn't need a spacer because of plenum volume, it needs a space because there is no turn from carb to runners without a spacer and because it needs some room from floor to carb.
With a spacer the NW looks to be a pretty good intake.

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Thanks. What I have found interesting is just how much of a choke point some carbs can be.

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Get a bigger carb then

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No not really

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