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10-10-2003, 05:29 PM
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What is the fastest car anyone knows of with a rpm intake manifold? I went a 10.41 @ 130.53 wed. nite at cecil county. I cant believe it pulled that much mph. Does anyone think a different intake will pick the car up? Its a 468,#16's,rpm intake,1 inch spacer,830 carb (pro systems rebuilt),turbo 350,3.55 gears,4400 10 inch converter. Car weighs 3420 with me.
68 Firebird 468 #16 D-Ports w RPM intake Street Car 10.47 @ 129.21 150 shot soon
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10-10-2003, 05:29 PM
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What is the fastest car anyone knows of with a rpm intake manifold? I went a 10.41 @ 130.53 wed. nite at cecil county. I cant believe it pulled that much mph. Does anyone think a different intake will pick the car up? Its a 468,#16's,rpm intake,1 inch spacer,830 carb (pro systems rebuilt),turbo 350,3.55 gears,4400 10 inch converter. Car weighs 3420 with me.
68 Firebird 468 #16 D-Ports w RPM intake Street Car 10.47 @ 129.21 150 shot soon
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540 c.i. Ultra Street Combo Tiger Heads with Tiger Intake Induction Solutions fogger with .046 jet First ultra street/ultimate street NOS car to get into the 4's! 1.079 4.559 153.23. 3100 lbs 7.77 @ 169 1/4 Mile (2015) with EHTTFMF!! T2TTFMF! Special Thanks to: Ron at Rhodes Custom Auto Butler Peformance Jim Hostler's Transmissions (HOSGTO) on here Induction Solutions BES Racing Engines. Cheeseburger VP Racing Fuels Calvert Racing |
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10-11-2003, 05:28 PM
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Hell, I'd lend you an intake to try.
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10-12-2003, 06:07 AM
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Cool, what intakes do you have? Alot of people say torker II , but im not sure. I guess trial and error. My brother has an original torker but im not sure how good that one is.
68 Firebird 468 #16 D-Ports w RPM intake Street Car 10.47 @ 129.21 150 shot soon
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540 c.i. Ultra Street Combo Tiger Heads with Tiger Intake Induction Solutions fogger with .046 jet First ultra street/ultimate street NOS car to get into the 4's! 1.079 4.559 153.23. 3100 lbs 7.77 @ 169 1/4 Mile (2015) with EHTTFMF!! T2TTFMF! Special Thanks to: Ron at Rhodes Custom Auto Butler Peformance Jim Hostler's Transmissions (HOSGTO) on here Induction Solutions BES Racing Engines. Cheeseburger VP Racing Fuels Calvert Racing |
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10-12-2003, 06:12 AM
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10-12-2003, 06:48 AM
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Wow thats hauling butt for sure dude!!! and without spray yet..
Is a 468 a punched out 455 or is it when you put a 455 crank in your 400.I was thinking of doing that 455 crank in my 400 thing. 80TAWS6,400,edelbrock carb,accel wires,dual exhaust,dynomax mufflers,3.42 strange gears,turbo 400,B&M converter/shift kit/etc., polygraphite everywhere,draglites. 14.24 at 97.40mph 2.21 60ft uncorrected tazzo vpc. 1900 ft altitude. 15.03 at 93.95 with 2.63 60ft at local track uncorrected.Before converter and turbo 400. 80 taws6 hardtop ,race car?? 99TAWS6 ..lots of mods.13.35 at 109 2.27 60ft uncorrected tazzo vpc. 1900 ft altitude.
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10-12-2003, 07:25 AM
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My brother has gone 10.30, but not at that much MPH. How big of cam?
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10-12-2003, 11:34 AM
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thanks. Its a 455 .035 over with a 4.25 stroke crank.
The cam is .630 lift and .266 - .272 at .050. The cam does not require a lifter bore brace. I wish my 60's were better, im only getting 1.52 to 1.54 and its really not spinning. Its a 10 inch 4400 ati which will work really good when I spray it, but on the motor it might need a tight 9 or 8 inch. What kind of setup does your brother run? Thats the e.t. im shooting for and I think I can get it with the rpm intake. I probably should have went up in jet sizes that nite and bumped the timing up to 34 or 35 degrees but the track was to crowded and didnt feel like messing with it since it was the first 3 runs on the motor. How much does your brothers car weigh? see ya 68 Firebird 468 #16 D-Ports w RPM intake 10.41 # 130.53 3.55 Gears Street Car
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10-12-2003, 07:11 PM
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GUYS! - This is going to make alot of you out there "MAD" - But i've stayed off of this post for a while because i got tired of the "BULL****" - now i come back and find out it's worst then ever.......you guys can stick it!I thought this was a great page for PONTIAC information but you guys are not dealing with reallity!!!!! CASE: 3420 lbs car-#-16 Heads-RPM intake- "NO-SPRAY"-----130.52 mph at 10.41 et......"BULL-****" -- you might fool each other but you can't fool us that really race.....! JOE ALLAN........Good-Day to you all.
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#10
10-12-2003, 07:24 PM
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Joe Allan = Smart man.
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10-12-2003, 07:28 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JOE ALLAN:
GUYS! - This is going to make alot of you out there "MAD" - But i've stayed off of this post for a while because i got tired of the "BULL****" - now i come back and find out it's worst then ever.......you guys can stick it!I thought this was a great page for PONTIAC information but you guys are not dealing with reallity!!!!! CASE: 3420 lbs car-#-16 Heads-RPM intake- "NO-SPRAY"-----130.52 mph at 10.41 et......"BULL-****" -- you might fool each other but you can't fool us that really race.....! JOE ALLAN........Good-Day to you all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> What is this all about?  ------------------- If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons? http://community.webshots.com/user/rimhof456
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#12
10-12-2003, 07:32 PM
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He's saying do the math and realize how much HP it would take to push a car that heavy, to that MPH and then see its hardware and realize that either major surgery has been done to all parts or that we should be wearing our waders.
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10-12-2003, 07:35 PM
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Was Badbird's car in one of the HPP shootouts before? I think it was running 10's without the spray there but Im not positive on that. I dont think it was 10.40's though. BTW Goatman awesome picture of your car launching against that chevelle
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10-12-2003, 07:43 PM
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Thanks.
I'm not trying to really get into an argument here, although I'm sure I will. But, looking at what else is out there, one has to wonder about the validity of the claim. I'm like heaven, everybody wanna get to me......... |
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10-12-2003, 07:59 PM
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"GOATMAN" - CHIEF PONTI-YACKER ---- "THANK YOU SIR" --- I see you are better then I am at expressing your self.......By my old fashion figures this guy would have to have 700 HP at the flywheel to run 130.53mph in a 3420lbs car at sea-level!!!!!!!!!! I'm 60 years old and have been around Drag Racing since 1959........I know the game and i understand the HORSE POWER to WEIGHT FIGURES & the ELEVATION CORRECTION FACTORS......Maybe where some of you race they are giveing out CORRECTED time-slips........I know there are some HIGH DOLLAR Super Stock PONTIACS running high 9's at 130 mph BUT: On this PY i thought we were talking about "GOOD" Bracket-Racing Motors-----Not high dollar pro-stock type cars that most of you are calling "STREET-CARS"------GET REAL........I thought PONTIAC RACING was us against them, not us against each other! Remember - this is just an OLE' MANS OPINION -- and OPINIONS are like ASSHOLES, we all got one, and in REALITY you can't get by with out one! nuff said! JOE
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10-12-2003, 08:21 PM
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GUYS - I'm not try'n to argue, I just thought if we were try'n to help each other then lets deal with reality and keep both feet on the ground and give out good info to help the new PONTIAC guys get started on the rite track.....If in fact you got a D-Port PONRIAC natural aspired that weighs more then 3400-lbs and can run 130 mph, then i opolgize for my ignorance!...Remember, I'm talk'n about MPH.........Keep-on-Keep'n-on".... Joe
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10-12-2003, 09:53 PM
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You know Joe, i was wondering about that myself, but i held back the desire to type up anything, i went to the track the other night and ran a
10.12@137 Mph on my little 1300cc Busa. Either hes putting down the power or maby he typed the numbers in wrong?? Wish i could go dat fast :P Mike |
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#18
10-12-2003, 10:11 PM
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Mike, put that big fat turbo on ur TA.
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10-13-2003, 12:55 AM
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Joe Allan. You are dead wrong. Do your math again.
 It takes about 580 hp to go 130mph with 3400lbs. With the hardware listed, that is very possible to do.  Nevertheless, I must say that´s impressive performance out of that combo.  Street ´69 Firebird. 3800 lbs with driver. 455 with D-ports. 275x50 drag radials. Stock suspension. 11.24s@124.2mph (motor only)10.42s@130.3mph (+150hpNOS)
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#20
10-13-2003, 01:53 AM
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I listen to the rapps put here and there is one thing being overlooked this past weekend was a had freak weather. I bracket race and you know how we hate screwdriveritis. Leave em alone and go rounds is the braketeers code. My car this past weekend ran a personal best just from the good air, and speed was up 3 mph???? For those who take racing serious and use weather stations and lived in horizontal middle slice of the country and actually raced this past weekend will tell that in some places the altitude went to 432' below sea level. I run an RPM and saw the pickup in speed without any marked increase in ET. Go figure. Gman you quoted your not looking to get into an argument here! Have you mellowed that much since Norwalk???
 I'm not a mathamatician but I do race every dry weekend and there is always an anomoly you just have to say oh well and go on to next round. I call those runs, acts of God. Or was it a spider making a web in front of finish line speed sensor hole in the guard wall??. BIGGERISBETTER-78 Catalina, 3650#, 13.603@100.51, 400 .060, 6x8, 750cfm 4150. 15 yrs in NHRA tech ret.
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