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Fuel Injected Intakes
Has anyone seen the prices of these intake manifolds?
https://www.speedmaster79.com/Pontia...Manifold-Satin https://www.speedmaster79.com/Pontia...ifold-Polished |
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"Speedmaster".
Pretty much says it all: Chinese junk from a company infamous for Chinese junk. No fookin' way, not at any price. |
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Huh. I wish some one would have told me that. I thought that since my ProComp intake fit perfectly, was finished very nicely requiring only a gasket match and my 455 ran better than with the prior HSD, it was a nice intake. Just shows how little I know.
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Well, he good news is that are one piece of solid aluminum that can not blow your engine to bits from poor manufacturing.
Seriously though, they are decent intakes. My 9-1 455 runs 11 flat with one. Mine was worked on a bit by SD Dave. really nice intake for ported iron heads IMO. |
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A Tomahawk with the bosses already drilled.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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A bit strange that the version machined for injectors is priced so much lower.
Maybe overstock or is being discontinued. |
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And for the haters, these are the old "Procomp" brand, which I hear is even more hated than "Speed master".
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Don't forget you need their' rails too...
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
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Oh, by the way, these intakes are not made in china, they are made in Australia.
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
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The one I have says "Made in China" in the casting.
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Maybe at one time they were, but PCE foundries are in Australia.
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
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This posted on another site....
Speed Master ,"a global company", is headquartered in Australia with some R&D and production facilities there but production of a lot of their products is outsourced to other countries. .
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Interesting, thank you steve c. for that information, noted!
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
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Almost all of the cast aluminum intakes out there (aside from the Holley and Edelbrock stuff) has been produced for many years in "Other Countries" China being the big one.
Ford of Australia did have casting capabilities for many years in Australia, prior to getting out of that production market. Edelbrock was far bigger in the aluminum casting business than many would realize and produced castings for over 70 years in the USA. Tom V.
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Speedmaster rails?
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Will Rivera '69 Firebird 400/461, 290+ E D-Ports, HR 230/236, 4l80E, 8.5 Rear, 3.55 gears '64 LeMans 400/461, #16 Heads, HR 230/236, TKO600, 9inch Rear, 3.89 gears '69 LeMans Vert, 350, #47 heads: Non-running project |
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Yeah, the brackets too, they make a rail/hardware kit, but looks like some are not in stock at the moment.
Injector spacing is specific to the engine families. You can have them made, but that can become cost prohibitive. .
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
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Wonder if the Edelbrock rails would work?
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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Maybe if you make your own stands, but it can be a challenge. The injector spacing is correct though.
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
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Quote:
These dimensions are taken from Victor and Super Victor Intake mounting hardware. Tall Mounting Bracket (STEEL) STRAP: .090" MATERIAL THICKNESS TALL BRACKET HEIGHT (STANDING ON END ON A FLAT SURFACE: 2.780" OUTSIDE WIDTH OF THE "U-MOUNTING BRACKET (BOLT END): .750" OUTSIDE WIDTH OF THE "U-MOUNTING BRACKET (RAIL END): .870" MOUNTING BOLT HOLE: .290" DIAMETER MOUNTING BOLT HOLE (FUEL RAIL BOLT): .280" DIAMETER SHORT Mounting Bracket (STEEL) STRAP: .090" MATERIAL THICKNESS SHORT BRACKET HEIGHT (STANDING ON END ON A FLAT SURFACE: 1.600" OUTSIDE WIDTH OF THE "U-MOUNTING BRACKET (BOLT END): .930" OUTSIDE WIDTH OF THE "U-MOUNTING BRACKET (RAIL END): .930" MOUNTING BOLT HOLE: .280" DIAMETER MOUNTING BOLT HOLE (FUEL RAIL BOLT): .280" DIAMETER Have fun trying to make these things. It is not going to be a easy process as you need 4 brackets, for a manifold, minimum. Tom V.
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"Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught Despite small distractions, there are those who will go Forward, Learning, Sharing Knowledge, Doing what they can to help others move forward. |
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Edelbrock has 2 different brackets and maybe rails too, depending on the type of injectors you use.
The rails for the SpeedMaster are here: https://www.speedmaster79.com/Pontia...ector-Rail-Kit There's two different ones, not sure which kit is for which intake, would have to check. But the brackets for the one appears to be simple 'L' type. Might be able to fab something for the Edelbrock ones. You would need to mock it up, the pad on the intake is the determining factor I believe. .
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
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