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Old 04-08-2022, 04:41 PM
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I recently noticed that Canned Heat was playing at a venue near to me so I looked to see “who” was in the band. Well, the drummer is the only older member. He was not the original but he joined in 1967 so that’s cool.
If all the other members are relatively new, is it still Canned Heat or just a tribute band? There are many older bands doing the same thing.

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Lynyrd Skynyrd. I'm not even sure an original is left.

James Hettfield is the one constant for Metallica.

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Old 04-08-2022, 05:18 PM
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I give a slide / pass to two groups, because a large part of the creative core remains. But both are not the bands of legend before people died or left.

The Stones, ol Keith and Mick always were so much of what made them great back even with Brian, Bill, Charlie and almost original Mick.

The Who, Townshend and Daltrey get a pass also, such a core of the greatness. Never replace the thunder of Moonie. Or great bass of Entwhistle.

I do admit when they start looking like Joe Namath on those commercials, and you look away in fear when they do a jump..... it gets odd.....

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I’d call it a tribute to Canned Heat. Alan Wilson and “Bear” Hite were the 2 most noticeable members and they’ve long since past. I know they have a right to make a living and as long as people are willing to pay to see the old act they should carry on but to me some things should just be left to history.

Jefferson Starship just came through my town recently and the only person in the band remotely associated with the original group is David Freiburg who played bass with them for a few years in the 70’s before he got fired by Grace Slick.

Starship was at best just a watered down Airplane anyway cashing in on the legacy so the “tribute” thing started a long time ago. Slick, Kanter, Casady, Kaukonen, Balin and Dryden were the Airplane. Casady and Kaukonen still tour as Hot Tuna playing their own music but still changing and improvising. They’re definitely the exception.

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Starship was at best just a watered down Airplane anyway cashing in on the legacy so the “tribute” thing started a long time ago. Slick, Kanter, Casady, Kaukonen, Balin and Dryden were the Airplane. Casady and Kaukonen still tour as Hot Tuna playing their own music but still changing and improvising. They’re definitely the exception.
Hot Tuna was my favorite of that mix of artists as a band. I love their first two albums. Jorma is one helluva finger picker. Cassidy is one of the best on bass.
I saw the Airplane right before the end of them, and Hot Tuna opened. They were the highlight of the night!

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Lynyrd Skynyrd. I'm not even sure an original is left.

James Hettfield is the one constant for Metallica.
Metallica is a TERRIBLE example for this thread. Hetfield and Ulrich have been with the band since inception ~1981). Kirk Hammett replaced Dave Mustaine in 1983.

The only position that has really changed is bass. And there have been only two long term members since Cliff Burton died in 1986.

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Lynyrd Skynyrd. I'm not even sure an original is left.

James Hettfield is the one constant for Metallica.
Gary Rossington is the only original member of Skynyrd left, but it could be argued that Rickey Medlocke is an original member since he played with and wrote songs for the band in 1971 & 1972 before he left to found Blackfoot.

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A tribute band just played here I read. I had to give them AAA+++ on name.
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When Ace and Peter leave….

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Saw Toto, and Journey recently. Toto has always been slightly fluid with some members, but still have some originals, they kicked butt, bigtime ! Very tight, and very very good.
Journey, Arnel is awsome. The second keyboard player and drummer both sang songs too. Neil.. the guitar wizard he always has been was perfect.
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Check out Youtube, the Fendertones. they do a great job with the Beach Boy songs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P26eyV-k2qY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDcuw_YMz0
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Very impressive covers, great vocals. Have to see if they tour. Thanks.

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Original Santana Band was the The Best but when Gregg Rolie their main vocalist and Keyboard player etc. left never was as good but I still enjoy their Rock Blues style to this day
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I love Alice in Chains, but as far as I'm concerned when Layne died, so did the band.

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I love Alice in Chains, but as far as I'm concerned when Layne died, so did the band.
agreed.

I was never able to see them live;
And they continue to be my elusive act - the last time was when I arrived at Ameoba in Hollywood;

I took that picture on August 30th (I had no idea they were going to be there);
I believe they have played in my city twice (post-Layne's passing), and I have always been out of town.

I am ever grateful that I saw Soundgarden on their second (and final) time in my city - supporting the 20th anniversary of Badmotorfinger.
(The first time they stopped in my city, I wasn't living here - I moved after graduating from high school, and came back a couple years later.)

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agreed.

I was never able to see them live;
And they continue to be my elusive act - the last time was when I arrived at Ameoba in Hollywood;
I took that picture on August 30th (I had no idea they were going to be there);
I believe they have played in my city twice (post-Layne's passing), and I have always been out of town.

I am ever grateful that I saw Soundgarden on their second (and final) time in my city - supporting the 20th anniversary of Badmotorfinger.
(The first time they stopped in my city, I wasn't living here - I moved after graduating from high school, and came back a couple years later.)

... end tangent.
They're one of few bands I regret not being able to see live. My biggest is Pantera. Those guys could shred like no other.

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They're one of few bands I regret not being able to see live. My biggest is Pantera. Those guys could shred like no other.
Saw Pantera @ the Boston Garden with Sabbath, awesome show!

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