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If driving a lot on street, I would suggest keeping things similar to what you have, maybe some intake tweaks to play around with, etc.
I had the setup in my signature with OF 2.0, which I felt was a great street/strip combo and somewhat of a sleeper when running through mufflers, relatively light weight valve springs, etc. Made somewhere around 590hp at crank. Since my street driving was getting to the point of 30 miles per summer, decided to open the heads around 325cfm and installed the attached cam. Well, the sleeper effect is no longer lol. Car is noticeably louder, choppier idle, etc. Not radical by any means, but definitely not as pleasant on the street as it was. Of course the same cam with your larger cubes will not be impacted the same way- there are always trade offs with these things. End result for my 461 is 635hp via the 1.75" headers and T2 manifold while knocking a couple 10ths off the ET. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
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68 Firebird-- Street/Strip - 400/461 Eagle Forged Bottom End & Ross Flat top pistons. KRE 325 CFM D port, Ultradyne 263/271 @.050, .4267 lift. Crower Solid roller lifters and 1.65 stainless rockers. Quickfuel 1000 on Torker2 intake and 2" open spacer. Hedman 1.75" headers. TH400 w/brake. Ford 9" w/3.80 gears & 28x9 Hoosier pro bracket drag radial. Best ET: 1.35 60ft, 6.29 @ 107.20 mph, 9.99 @132.33 mph. 3,300 race weight |
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Larry's comments in post #17 reminds me.....
About 18 years ago Paul Spotts did one of the first 505 builds using a early IA2 block. According to Paul, "This was not a 'build a gazillion horsepower' project. Rather it was an exercise to learn about the features and idiosyncrasies of the IA II block and building a street 505-cube engine that has vacuum for power brakes and uses a true street type cam. It didn't make huge horsepower numbers but did deliver on torque. It idles like a mild engine but can still put a well-prepped street car into the 10s." The Edelbrock 87cc heads were 'cleaned up' to 306 cfm at 0.600" lift. Valves- 2.110" intake / 1.660" exhaust The compression was 10.2:1 It used a Comp solid roller cam with 254/254 at .050" / .3880" lobe lift w/ 1.65 rockers / 110 LSA A port matched Victor intake with some mild port work and a AED HP 1000 carb 2-inch primary headers. 581.8 HP at 5700 rpm (corrected) Best torque pull was 599.3 ft.lbs. at 4500 rpm (corrected) .
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) 5.14 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE |
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6000 to 6400 is no problem. Even though, 6400 is too high for that cam on my cubes. Even worse on your cubes. But, it does love to fly to 6000 without paying attention. |
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Running 1.5`s. 1.65`s puts it at 660 lift. This is a street car. Crane 99893 spring.
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Whats spec’s on Road Paver cam
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Derek Stewart apprenticed with Dave Bisschop, and I know he is doing intake work.
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'73 T/A (clone). Low budget stock headed 8.3:1 455, 222/242 116lsa .443/.435 cam. FAST Sportsman EFI, 315rwhp/385rwtq on 87 octane. 13.12 @103.2, 1.91 60'. '67 Firebird [sold], ; 11.27 @ 119.61, 7.167 @ 96.07, with UD 280/280 (108LSA/ 109 ICL)solid cam. [1.537, 7.233 @93.61, 11.46 @ 115.4 w/ old UD 288/296 108 hydraulic cam] Feb '05 HPP, home-ported "16" D-ports, dished pistons (pump gas only), 3.42 gears, 275/60 DR's, 750DP, T2, full exhaust |
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Why they call it Road Paver.
But, I can’t rotate these pics. |
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306/314
246/252 400 lobe 112 sep107.5 ICL |
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503-808-0559 engineguy535@gmail.com
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Oh that’s a nice cam, for your combo.
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I might put it on 114 for 505 cubes.
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We consistently made 635-665hp 650-672tq with the Road Paver cam 1.65 rockers 505-535, 10.3:1 fully ported T2 intake, SD standard entrance 340-350cfm E-heads 1000cfm carb
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Dave Bisschop likes to use Comp lobes 3115B and 3116B.
He calls it the "road paver". 306 / 314 246 / 252 .4000" lobe lift More often than not ground with a 112 LSA Keep in mind if changing from a hydraulic roller cam to a solid roller cam you would add duration. Not a recommendation here, but something like a Comp 254 degree solid roller lobe would certainly not be overkill in a 505. On the intake side I'm currently using Harold Brookshires tried and true 288 solid roller lobe. It has 255 at .050 and .4176' lobe lift. Peak power 5600-5800 depending on the pull. .
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) 5.14 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE |
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Now is that Road Paver…. hyd roller or solid I might have miss that part
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Hyd. Old school Comp lifters.
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Gotcha
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#38
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Pretty mellow but stout street engine. The T2 is a choke point but, it IS a street car. It does rip, though.
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I’ll bet.. nice ! I had a 462 ci with solid roller 265 duration but it was a iron head that only flowed 265 cfm. Made 625 hp but is was 12.1 compression. So thats a nice combo on pump gas. amazing what head flow does.
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Yep. 10.3 compress. Sweetheart. Prolly last forever.
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