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Old 10-02-2023, 08:25 PM
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Just curios, has anyone gotten an engine built from butler in the last 3 years, everytime i email them about an engine being built, i get, you need to order from such a date..................i call on that date, and get we are already booked for that year.............guess i will have to try for 2024.

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Old 10-02-2023, 11:19 PM
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Get someone else to do it. What is the big deal about Butler having to rebuild anyone's engine ?

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Old 10-02-2023, 11:47 PM
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Yep been hearing that all to often, their book solid for a year. They don’t just do Pontiac engines.

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Get someone else to do it. What is the big deal about Butler having to rebuild anyone's engine ?
EXACTLY!!! There are many builders out there that can do just as good or better.

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EXACTLY!!! There are many builders out there that can do just as good or better.
Just pick a good machine shop and build it yourself.
There is always the pride of know you did it and turned every nut and bolt yourself.
You could write a check and have it done. But its not the same.

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EXACTLY!!! There are many builders out there that can do just as good or better.
GO TO ANY ONE OF THEM IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY.

(I am sure that the Butler family is not going to starve because you will not have them work on your engine. Same deal with Tony Bischoff.)

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Just curios, has anyone gotten an engine built from butler in the last 3 years, everytime i email them about an engine being built, i get, you need to order from such a date..................i call on that date, and get we are already booked for that year.............guess i will have to try for 2024.

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GO TO ANY ONE OF THEM IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY.

(I am sure that the Butler family is not going to starve because you will not have them work on your engine. Same deal with Tony Bischoff.)

Have a good day.

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Tom,
Just how long should he wait to try and get Butler to build has engine before going elsewhere?

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Old 10-06-2023, 09:49 PM
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Tom,
Just how long should he wait to try and get Butler to build has engine before going elsewhere?

Stan
Simple telephone call would tell him where he would be in the Butler "cue".
Not rocket science Stan. If the date is too far out then depending on where he is located in the US there are other qualified engine builders out there.

No mention, from others, about where the ECM guys have gotten their engines build over the years.

So without info you really can't make any decision. Just complain about Butlers possible delivery date.

This is really not hard, Stan.

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Butler is big into LS engines now. You don't have to have a "Pontiac" engine builder. It's nice but not necessary. The best engine I ever had built was not built by a Pontiac person but by someone who really knew what he was doing and then dynoed before released to me. That engine was raced for 4 years and has been driven so far 21 years on the street.

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There’s more money in building LS engines and BBC then building Pontiac engines Only problem is finding a that good engine builder in your area. Ask Chiarelli..LOL

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Old 10-04-2023, 04:12 PM
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Butler is big into LS engines now. You don't have to have a "Pontiac" engine builder. It's nice but not necessary. The best engine I ever had built was not built by a Pontiac person but by someone who really knew what he was doing and then dynoed before released to me. That engine was raced for 4 years and has been driven so far 21 years on the street.
About a year ago David Butler told me that they dropped the LS stuff and only do Pontiacs now.

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About a year ago David Butler told me that they dropped the LS stuff and only do Pontiacs now.

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Old 10-04-2023, 08:05 PM
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About a year ago David Butler told me that they dropped the LS stuff and only do Pontiacs now.
I guess no one told the web site people that they, "Butler", dropped LS engines:

https://butler-ls.com/

The link works just fine BTW.........

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They also occasionally still have YouTube videos of LS builds

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About a year ago David Butler told me that they dropped the LS stuff and only do Pontiacs now.
Butlers LS website is still up and running I was just looking at it a couple days ago.

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Old 10-05-2023, 05:46 PM
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Here’s my take, I could be wrong. There’s more money in doing LS motors, only real money in a Pontiac hobby is selling rotating assembly kits. Heads etc. specially as the majority using stock blocks. The availability of stock blocks and what you have to go through to make sure it’s a good block. I had a friend call recently they told him 9 months or better before they could even consider giving him a price. They have real good video of the whole process to go through to check out a stock block. It’s very time consuming and labor intense. VS dealing with aftermarket block.

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Where are you located?

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i would get ahold of Paul Knippen's Muscle Motors in Sandwich, IL

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Paul is in TX now!Tom

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Paul is in TX now!Tom
Yes, I heard that he moved but a profile search as of 7/9/23 indicated that he is in Canoga Park, California. Of course that was almost three months ago and maybe he didn't like Cali and moved to Texas like so many others.

I was planning to get some work done at his shop as Sandwich is just several towns over from me-----as usual I'm a day late and a dollar short.

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