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#41
09-27-2017, 07:57 PM
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Those formulas are 50 years old. They are very simple and were close back when quick cars were running 11's. The farther you move from that point the farther off they get. In scientific study when working with unknowns you try to use a known and see if the results look right. Lets take the 500 ci carb NHRA Pro Stocker which at a DA around 0 ran 6.45 @ 215 MPH. They weighted a minimum of 2350 lbs and had just under 1500 HP. How close do any of the online calculators come to that HP? Stan
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#42
09-27-2017, 08:22 PM
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E heads are still faster then GTO George.
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#43
09-27-2017, 08:27 PM
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#44
09-27-2017, 08:51 PM
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Power adders make it a little different. 
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#45
09-27-2017, 09:35 PM
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 Foolish by saying e heads are disappearing, then saying there is no fast e heads anymore. I don't have them but tons of people do! |
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#46
09-27-2017, 09:57 PM
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Never said they were disappearing, I said vanishing! Also didn't say there are no FAST e-headed cars out there! I said the quicker cars are trading in there E-heads for better heads! If you are gonna Quote me at least get it right! In my opinion Turbo cars are Boring (but getting better).......my opinion! I never said they weren't quick! GTO George |
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#47
09-28-2017, 03:17 AM
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#48
09-28-2017, 08:04 AM
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Wasting your breath Dragncar, George is an old school, old fart, who can't afford a Proper Degree Wheel, (or other engine equipment), is a Bracket Racer, and hates Turbos because they are at least 2 seconds faster than his stuff.
Melissa Urist Mustang with a whimpy 1416 dynoed Twin Turbo HP 302 cid Mustang engine (Much smaller engine 200 less cubic inches, makes more hp vs George and she is an excellent bracket racer.) Tom V.
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#49
09-28-2017, 08:35 AM
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If I'm not mistaken it pays $10k to win since it's part of the Midwest promod series. I mean he's already "beat a Hemi car at the track once this year"
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#50
09-28-2017, 09:38 AM
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Turbos make no noise and leave the line like Baby Diarrhea! Yes I know about turbos all that plumbing is stupid.......roots blowers are so much cooler! Turbos don't make great bracket cars , out of 600 RACE cars at Norwalk for their "10 Grand Nationals" there were WAY more belt driven blower cars then turbos! I was QUICKER then every TURBO car there!! LOL! Back to topic.......... I also use to have e heads but stepped up (VANISHING). How many heads up racers on this web site that have switched their e-heads? 3...4....5.......6? GTO George Last edited by GTOGEORGE; 09-28-2017 at 09:55 AM. |
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#51
09-28-2017, 10:56 AM
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#52
09-28-2017, 11:17 AM
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With George and Jim, being Old Guys, it is all about "Cool" (Nothing More).
That is simple enough to understand, Dragncar. Make some noise, impress the grand kids. Tom V.
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#53
09-28-2017, 11:32 AM
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You guys say that but Curt Geise never had a problem being double 0 on the tree with his twin turbo car........ Now Chief on the other hand...when He showed up to the big leagues....LOL
How does 6.30's take a stripe by maaaaaaybr .1 on a car that goes 6.60???????? Chief I'm just bustin balls all fun and games....want my 2cents? Here it is! Your a marketing genius and the NFL sponsors are in the worst situation they could ever dream of! Since you and the "405" are all about money.....go take that NFL money away from allllllll those companies that are in a horrible situation....your a guy that can market drag racing and diversity and RESPECTING THE THE HECK OUT OF PEOPLE THAT GAVE US A RIGHT TO SPEAK OUR MINDS! .........just not during the anthem!
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#54
09-28-2017, 12:14 PM
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Do not confuse R/T with 60 foot times. You can still have a great R/T in a Yugo. Sta
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09-28-2017, 01:41 PM
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09-28-2017, 03:45 PM
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Think he has forgot more than you ever knew about drag racing, but thats just my opinion. Now if he could just get that ugly BBC out of his car. Its too pretty for that ! |
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#57
09-28-2017, 04:01 PM
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#58
09-28-2017, 04:11 PM
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Yes George anyone can get a good reaction time. But it is a little different doing it in a 2000HP turbo monster that is tough to stage, on the street where you can blow the tires off and end up wrapped around a light pole in a split second.
That guy can drive. |
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#59
09-28-2017, 04:15 PM
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P.S......... Anyone can't good a GOOD reaction time...........at least consistently! GTO George |
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#60
09-28-2017, 04:43 PM
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Over the years I have had many friendly conversation with Jason. So please stay out of other peoples business. All you keep doing is showing just how little you know. JMO Stan
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