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#1681
05-26-2021, 06:48 PM
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72 Firebird at $6300 NR in NY. Looked at the seller's rating and there's one negative for something sold worth $60, so I wouldn't even count that against them.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/17478247297...8AAOSwSYNgrlCa   
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#1682
05-26-2021, 10:01 PM
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67 Red/Red Firebird convert at $23K with a reserve. This car sold for $30.5K previously. Looks like a really nice car. With a Pontiac engine (has a Chevy 350) it would be worth $30K IMO.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27481113317...sAAOSw-6xgihLi   
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#1683
05-27-2021, 08:11 AM
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The gaps in the front seem a little off...
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#1684
05-27-2021, 11:01 PM
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70 GTO at $300 with a BIN of $7.7K in Kansas. Not a bad deal at all IMO for this car. Looks to be a converted 4-speed as the block is YS and the heads are #13.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27481298012...IAAOSwUYJgsCW0    
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#1685
05-28-2021, 08:12 AM
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That 70 could be a nice car for an energetic soul...maybe just a bit overpriced considering the fact that it will probably need an entire engine.
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#1686
05-28-2021, 10:02 AM
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Too many people think that they are sitting on a gold mine and watching too much TV
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#1687
05-28-2021, 11:05 AM
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I see most over-priced cars are the ones that are restored. A 1979 Trans AM no matter how nice it is, is not worth $80K. Here's an example, a 1970 Lemans converted into a GTO and they're asking almost $100K. Is it a nice car? Sure, especially having a frame off. Still too much money and it prolly has more that that in it. . https://www.ebay.com/itm/28430687900...0AAOSwbcBgrQPl  What I look for in these cars is rust. If rust is really bad, it's not worth restoring IMO unless it's an ultra rare car, but even then you'll probably lose money on it. I have 4 Pontiacs now and also a hoard of heads and engines, so the mechanical I can deal with. I bet this car sells before the end of the auction. Someone will probably use the BIN, or go over a make a deal for the car in person and they'll just pull the ad as "no longer for sale" which happens a lot. |
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#1688
05-28-2021, 01:13 PM
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Unless you are restoring the car yourself and/or it is ultra rare, you will usually lose money having someone else restore it correctly. Unless the exact car you want to buy has sentimental value, I would recommend finding one as finished as you can afford.
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#1689
05-28-2021, 05:42 PM
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For me, speaking of that particular car, it would depend on what the details are. Options and that sort of thing. The color combo is nice. Four speed is nice. I think around $5,500 if I really just wanted a 70 GTO project. At my age it definitely would not be worth more than that. Too much work for me.
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#1690
05-28-2021, 11:34 PM
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#1691
05-29-2021, 09:03 AM
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$2200. can go a long way into a restoration .. the problem is people are sitting on rust buckets and basing their asking price on what the car could be worth when all professionally done to concours .. the seller knows that his dreams of restoring the car are out of their reach and not happy about it either so they try and gouge as much as they can ( its their car its their right to do so) and with the help of Barrett Jackson and all the car restoration TV shows these people think they sit on a gold mine and the select few people that pay that ridiculous amount are very well off usually have their own shop and just in it to restore and flip . And if you live in Canada its more expensive to restore as pretty much everything is out of the US (shipping, brokerage, duty tax plus the high price because you need it) for the most part.. .. Its getting so bad that these shops will be cornering the market by keeping project car valued at a high price that only they can afford to restore and flip and the average Joe wont even be able to afford a project car let alone restore it |
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#1692
05-30-2021, 12:18 PM
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To restore this 70 GTO would take a lot of time and work, but the base is there. If you're not paying upwards of $10K you aren't going to get nice driver. If there's rust in the cowl panel then there's rust all through the car. It's not worth it to replace all that metal. If your budget is $25K, then $2200 is 10%. Not many people have a budget of $25K and if that's the budget, I'd just get a nicer car to start with, so getting the car in your garage to start working on it at less than $10K is going to have a lot more potential buyers.
To me, the "numbers matching" part of the Pontiac hobby is overblown for the average Joe. My cars all have replacement engines except for the 80 Turbo T/A, and that one I really wish had a 400 in it. If I see a car at a show I'm not looking at the part number of the carburetor. If someone has a high end numbers matching car I think it's cool, but it's too expensive to start with a block and find the correct date codes and part numbers. The original colors of a car are somewhat meaningless to me, except when a car has a very rare color combination. That 70 GTO needs a whole new interior and paint, so I'd pick the colors I would have ordered and go that route. The Pontiac hobby is not profitable IMO. I don't have Pontiacs to make money on them. I have them because I love them. If I end up breaking even on a car I'm happy about it. I plan on selling two cars this summer: a 69 Firebird convertible and a 75 Trans AM. I don't want to sell them, but I'm getting too old to realistically finish all 4 and I need a well on my mountain property more than I need hobby cars. When I do sell them I'll get as much as I can, but breaking even is what will prolly happen. The best deals on eBay IMO are the cars that are taken apart. Someone gets all fired up when they start a car and take it apart. It sits there collecting dust and they either get tired of it or pass away. When that car is left to the family to get rid of, a lot of times they don't know exactly how much it's worth or how rare it is, they just want it gone. Those auctions are typically No Reserve and they'll get what someone is willing to pay for it. One more thing is that sometimes you have to take chances. I bought both of my Trans AM's sight unseen, so when they showed up just as described I was relieved. They were both under $6K, so while there was risk involved it wasn't too much. A $20K car I would have to see in person. Last edited by thews; 05-30-2021 at 12:29 PM. |
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#1693
05-30-2021, 12:41 PM
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1966 Tempest convertible at NR $4K in CA with a Chevy 350.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/29420142487...kAAOSwrI9gssv8    
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#1694
05-30-2021, 12:51 PM
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73 Firebird 400 Ram Air car in Navajo Orange at $23K with a reserve in Nebraska. I've never heard of this color and it looks awesome.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/32464892325...cAAOSwiUJgsaOL  
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#1695
05-30-2021, 06:31 PM
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2000 Firebird 6 speed with 68K on it in Florida at $5K NR. Claims to have 435 HP.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/29420278556...wAAOSwx89gs-2b   
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#1696
05-31-2021, 08:03 PM
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67 Tempest convertible in Indiana at $13.9K BIN. A fair price for this car IMO.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/29420464454...wAAOSw8yVgtXYG 
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#1697
05-31-2021, 10:17 PM
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81 T/A in Indiana at NR $5K. A lot of room under that hood to put a 400 in it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/15447538667...UAAOSwbPlgtYq3   
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#1698
06-01-2021, 07:19 PM
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#1699
06-01-2021, 08:06 PM
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#1700
06-02-2021, 08:41 AM
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I'm liking that 68 better than the 70 under discussion earlier.
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