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12-01-2013, 07:50 PM
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1970 Judge questions
Have a chance to obtain a 1970 GTO Judge. RA III, matching numbers on block and 4-speed trans, heavily optioned car but needs to be restored. Much is there, some is missing (carb, A/C parts, other things) Car is together and runs and drives. Far from a basket case. Seems almost too good to be true. Looking for ballpark values.
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GREG'S GOATS: 1970 GTO Judge RA-III, 4-SPD & A/C. Power Windows, Power Seat, Power Brakes, Steering, AM/FM, 8-Track, Formula Wheel, Rallye Gauges, Remote Mirror, Numbers Matching. Assembled at Pontiac, MI Plant 5/26/1970. 1968 GTO 461 CI, RA-III heads, Hotchkis springs, UMI suspension, Bilstein shocks, 12-bolt 3.73's. 1966 GTO Ragtop 4-Speed, AM/FM, Original driveline. |
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12-01-2013, 07:52 PM
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any pictures?
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12-01-2013, 07:54 PM
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Yes, want to wait a little bit though... I'll explain later LOL...
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GREG'S GOATS: 1970 GTO Judge RA-III, 4-SPD & A/C. Power Windows, Power Seat, Power Brakes, Steering, AM/FM, 8-Track, Formula Wheel, Rallye Gauges, Remote Mirror, Numbers Matching. Assembled at Pontiac, MI Plant 5/26/1970. 1968 GTO 461 CI, RA-III heads, Hotchkis springs, UMI suspension, Bilstein shocks, 12-bolt 3.73's. 1966 GTO Ragtop 4-Speed, AM/FM, Original driveline. |
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12-02-2013, 01:08 AM
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GREG'S GOATS: 1970 GTO Judge RA-III, 4-SPD & A/C. Power Windows, Power Seat, Power Brakes, Steering, AM/FM, 8-Track, Formula Wheel, Rallye Gauges, Remote Mirror, Numbers Matching. Assembled at Pontiac, MI Plant 5/26/1970. 1968 GTO 461 CI, RA-III heads, Hotchkis springs, UMI suspension, Bilstein shocks, 12-bolt 3.73's. 1966 GTO Ragtop 4-Speed, AM/FM, Original driveline. |
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12-02-2013, 01:11 AM
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I decided to go for it, didn't want to lose it. At the last minute a few people jumped into the bidding. I think I did ok, I think I could get my money back at the very least.
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GREG'S GOATS: 1970 GTO Judge RA-III, 4-SPD & A/C. Power Windows, Power Seat, Power Brakes, Steering, AM/FM, 8-Track, Formula Wheel, Rallye Gauges, Remote Mirror, Numbers Matching. Assembled at Pontiac, MI Plant 5/26/1970. 1968 GTO 461 CI, RA-III heads, Hotchkis springs, UMI suspension, Bilstein shocks, 12-bolt 3.73's. 1966 GTO Ragtop 4-Speed, AM/FM, Original driveline. |
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12-02-2013, 02:24 AM
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It has the wrong exhaust manifolds on it if that the pic. it has reg. 400 exh. manifolds so to start it's not numbers matching.
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12-02-2013, 08:00 AM
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Congrats on the new Judge!
Car looks good. 
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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12-02-2013, 08:16 AM
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GREG'S GOATS: 1970 GTO Judge RA-III, 4-SPD & A/C. Power Windows, Power Seat, Power Brakes, Steering, AM/FM, 8-Track, Formula Wheel, Rallye Gauges, Remote Mirror, Numbers Matching. Assembled at Pontiac, MI Plant 5/26/1970. 1968 GTO 461 CI, RA-III heads, Hotchkis springs, UMI suspension, Bilstein shocks, 12-bolt 3.73's. 1966 GTO Ragtop 4-Speed, AM/FM, Original driveline. |
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12-02-2013, 08:20 AM
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Looks great! Nice car to start with and have fun!!
BTW: VIN matching numbers were noted on block and trans.... Never seen VIN on exhaust manifolds before?
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12-02-2013, 08:22 AM
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Looks like Ram Air manifolds to me. Congrats on a well bought car!
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12-02-2013, 08:24 AM
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GREG'S GOATS: 1970 GTO Judge RA-III, 4-SPD & A/C. Power Windows, Power Seat, Power Brakes, Steering, AM/FM, 8-Track, Formula Wheel, Rallye Gauges, Remote Mirror, Numbers Matching. Assembled at Pontiac, MI Plant 5/26/1970. 1968 GTO 461 CI, RA-III heads, Hotchkis springs, UMI suspension, Bilstein shocks, 12-bolt 3.73's. 1966 GTO Ragtop 4-Speed, AM/FM, Original driveline. |
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12-02-2013, 08:43 AM
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Well bought - congratulations!
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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12-02-2013, 09:53 PM
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nice purchase I like the unique color. congrats.
 I just don't understand why someone always tries to rain on someones parade.  
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12-02-2013, 10:05 PM
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is it golden rod?
i missed the whole thing..where when how much.. never mind ..i found it..good buy is right would have cool if it was a golden rod car....was golden rod avail in 70 on a GTO or Judge? never saw one...
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Mark.. The Goat whisperer "I spent a lot of my money on booze, crazy women, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." 
Last edited by marxjunk; 12-02-2013 at 10:15 PM. |
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12-02-2013, 10:23 PM
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NUMBERS MATCHING
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12-02-2013, 11:59 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Pontiac...p2047675.l2557
Nice score for sure. I see it was Granada Gold originally. Not many matching # Judges to be found very easily these days. |
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#17
12-03-2013, 12:01 AM
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Very good! A decent 4-speed ram air car with its original engine and transmission is worth grabbing.
I have seen this same poster say similar off the wall negative things at least two other times--one of them directed at me--seems odd because he is sometimes very helpful.
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12-03-2013, 12:28 AM
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Very cool! What's your plan for the restoration? Going back to Granada Gold?
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12-03-2013, 12:30 AM
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Congrats on your purchase & enjoy it!
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12-03-2013, 08:38 AM
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Thanks for the very kind words. I wasn't bothered by the guy suggesting it wasn't correct, he thought it had the wrong manifolds. /shrug
It did remind me of people that constantly try to tell me our red '68 with a column shift and bench seat is really a Tempest. I plan to keep the car and restore it to original, even if that takes a long time. There aren't very many cars like this left and it will be nice to be able to see firsthand the before and after versus buying something already done and not knowing what it was originally. I do plan to return it to original colors.
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GREG'S GOATS: 1970 GTO Judge RA-III, 4-SPD & A/C. Power Windows, Power Seat, Power Brakes, Steering, AM/FM, 8-Track, Formula Wheel, Rallye Gauges, Remote Mirror, Numbers Matching. Assembled at Pontiac, MI Plant 5/26/1970. 1968 GTO 461 CI, RA-III heads, Hotchkis springs, UMI suspension, Bilstein shocks, 12-bolt 3.73's. 1966 GTO Ragtop 4-Speed, AM/FM, Original driveline. |
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