[tempest1964]

Just want to post this in the 64-65 section. I contacted Scott Tiemann and ordered the "Dash Dial Blue" lacquer paint that he had specially formulated. He also informed me that I called just in time as PPG was ending the sale of lacquer in Michigan. He told me the minimum mix is 1 pint. This will make 4 spray cans. So I didn't want to waste any of the pint, I bought all 4 cans. I plan on using one. Another board member plans on buying 1 from me. That leaves 2 left. If anyone is interested, please PM me.
Tony

[64-3Deuces]

PM sent

[John V.]

PM sent.

[64speed]

That picture of your dash and the radio is the exact blue I am looking for for the interior of mine. You don’t happen to have a paint code or know where I can find it do you

[tempest1964]

The 4 cans of paint have been sold.
Tony

[tempest1964]

Update: 2 Forum members who each bought a can of the paint said it doesn't "look right". Back to the drawing board.

[remy30006]

Originally Posted by 64-3Deuces

John V.
I don’t think this color stuff will ever be truly resolved. A lot of good info though in those links, including some that you posted.

Some pics attached just for FYI. Pic 1 shows a NOS “take off” (left) next to a restored control that I bought from Gary’s GTO Goodies some time back. Not sure how long the NOS was exposed to the light but you can see it is more gray than the resto. When I talked to Gary about the resto he stated that a lot of trial and error was spent matching up the color and that computer matching didn’t work. Pic 2 is a true NOS on E-Bay ages ago—greenish, greenish/gray, greenish blue?????? And Pic 3 is for reference.

Pic 4 shows my NOS 64 console plate. Again not sure of the “exposure” history but you can that it has a strong gray tint. Pic 5 is not the best but the color on the NOS HVAC matches the console plate color.

As Pete Serio stated this paint was prone to fading. The original in my 64 was down to a washed out silver color. I have three dash bezels. The ribs that were covered with the insert were more of darker color than the one that wasn’t. Pete sent me a formula for the paint he uses but I haven’t had it mixed yet.

As for the actual paint code here’s my thought—and that’s all it is- all these parts are die cast and made by a third party. Pontiac said this is the color we want and the vendor made up the paint and painted them. When replacement parts were purchased they came already painted (such as my console plate) and therefore the paint and/or paint code was not available for field refinishing OR if this was an existing interior color again the part came prepainted so no need to list the paint/code used.

64
could you post the code paint code that Pete uses?
Thank you

[64-3Deuces]

remy,

In my pile of 64 GTO documentation...will dig it out and let you know......MJS

[Peter Serio]

PPG Lacquer Duracryl


1pt. mix
DMA349 - Fine Alum. 206.9
DMA358 - Black 155.9
DMA375 - Blue 10.4
DMA342 - Blue 54.1
DMA360 - Dark Red 9.8

Med wet final coat after coverage.

[64-3Deuces]

Thanks Pete, you saved me some work, LOL

[tempest1964]

Please let us know how it works out

[Peter Serio]

I have had to use several different brands of paint therefor mix formulas over the years. If I recall the mixture above should yield the color shown below. That or very close to it. If it does or does not, please post the results.

If not I will search thru my old files and folders, perhaps I have another. Some of the mixes from years past I had mixed by eye and some of the resulting paint had to be ever so slightly "tinted to match" at the body shop's. (Paint store.)

That was a long time ago. Unfortunately that mix was never written down. It doesn't matter anyway. That store changed paint suppliers shortly afterwards and when I went back to get some more, the guy that mixed it for me was no longer there.

[tempest1964]

Pete, that looks pretty dang good to this untrained eye!
Tony

[Peter Serio]

Very important: the color primer you set that paint on top of will affect the look of the color.


I like to use light grey or medium grey or bare steel. Just FYI. Dark grey or red oxide primers under that color are likely to give you an undesirable result. I can not say what that color will look like if sprayed directly over top of chrome. I think GM did but they had experts in all kinds of stuff and I am sure the mix they used even had some kind of a binder in it to be able to put the color directly on top of bright chrome without any issues. Personally I would use a light coat of "etch" primer just to give the color some extra grip.

A nice primer I have had good results with in the past is sold by TP Tools in Canfield Ohio. www.tptools.com

Their part # 5915 Quick Etch = one 12.5 oz. spray can. It comes in a light shade of zinc chromate green; as a happy accident this color is a very good base-tone under the green/ blue/ gray color everybody is looking to match.

[remy30006]

Pete,

Thank you so much for the code. this has been very expensive and frustrating to this point trying to find something close to match original parts