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Old 12-14-2019, 01:29 PM
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Because they have all the Pontiac dimension... any stock internal or external part with bolt up...
They are copies of the OEM block but stronger
It's against the rules to "copy cat" .....just saying

But with that being said, if you copy the drawings of the first aftermarket block that was copied from the OEM block who exactly are you copying?

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Old 12-14-2019, 02:45 PM
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It's against the rules to "copy cat" .....just saying

But with that being said, if you copy the drawings of the first aftermarket block that was copied from the OEM block who exactly are you copying?
"Copies " was not used in the literal sense or with any negative connotations...
Just saying both blocks are "copies" of the Pontiac dimensions....
I wasn't referring to the underhanded stuff that went on in that whole deal

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Old 12-14-2019, 03:25 PM
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It's against the rules to "copy cat" .....just saying

But with that being said, if you copy the drawings of the first aftermarket block that was copied from the OEM block who exactly are you copying?
Apple Computer, Inc. v. Microsoft Corp.
Microsoft Corporation, 35 F. 3d 1435 (9th Cir. 1994), was a copyright infringement lawsuit in which Apple Computer, Inc. ... sought to prevent Microsoft and Hewlett-Packard from using visual graphical user interface (GUI) elements that were similar to those in Apple's Lisa and Macintosh operating systems.

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What this means is if you have copied something from someone and someone copies it from you don't think you can sue them.

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Pretty sure but it's been a while since I looked at real information on copyright and patents if you copy BUT change a small percentage then its deemed ok because there is a substantial amount of deviation from the original

And on a engine block that wouldn't be hard to accomplish

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Old 12-14-2019, 07:19 PM
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2009 I purchased a block from KRE at Norwalk when they discounted them for the show but I haven't used it still. I'm hoping it was the improved block. It doesn't have any markings around the distributor hole. Hoping
it will be a good block whenever or if I decide to us it.

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Old 12-14-2019, 07:20 PM
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use it. lol

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Old 12-14-2019, 07:27 PM
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2009 I purchased a block from KRE at Norwalk when they discounted them for the show but I haven't used it still. I'm hoping it was the improved block. It doesn't have any markings around the distributor hole. Hoping
it will be a good block whenever or if I decide to us it.
I bought mine in 2007!


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Old 12-14-2019, 09:29 PM
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The only MR-1 blocks that had issues are the tri-cast ones... I can't speak for all of them, only mine..
That problem has been corrected... either block, ia2 or Mr-1 will work for the you... that's the short answer...
I don't say that lightly... trust me, I cant stand kre for the way they handled my issues....
So a good review coming from me is painful yet honest...

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Old 12-14-2019, 09:30 PM
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I bought mine in 2007!


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Old 12-14-2019, 09:40 PM
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:45 PM
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Buy the way, why don't you but the D rotor screw? I will loan you a 14-71 if you will turn it up.. I think you're scared.....
I will loan you a blower with bag if you run it at 30% or more....
It's not one of those little street blowers u run...ita a retro case with 120° rotors...
Most likely, it would blow you chit up..

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Old 12-14-2019, 10:12 PM
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Not a hollow offer George...I have loaned out many parts...
I loaned out a blower bag to Bobby Martindale for a George race.. google that...he WAS a good friend..

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Old 12-14-2019, 11:41 PM
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How much machining needs to go into these blocks when buying one new? Just final hone or do they need mains align bored, decks squared, etc?
Mains were good. I bored and honed to size. Decks are good but I still decked them to get to zero with the rod/piston combo I was using. Same goes for both blocks.

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Old 12-15-2019, 01:26 PM
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The only aftermarket block failure( more than one) I seen is the IA2 block I never seen or heard of a MR1 block fail since KRE fixed their casting problems .JMO ..

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Old 12-15-2019, 01:32 PM
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A lot of part (any part) failures are in the build, lack of knowledge ior understanding is a big cause of it.


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Old 12-15-2019, 01:43 PM
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A lot of part (any part) failures are in the build, lack of knowledge ior understanding is a big cause of it.


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Not always ..

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Old 12-15-2019, 02:00 PM
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Not always ..
I did not say always, there is a lot of ignorance out there when build a high hp engine.....if it was easy everyone would or could do it!
Anyone can build a time bomb and have it break and blame it on faulty parts.


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Old 12-16-2019, 12:02 AM
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The aftermarket block should be viewed as core blocks. Everything needs done to them but in the end you have something that can take what you throw at it. Thinking other wise is stupid.

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Old 12-16-2019, 08:53 PM
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I love my butter block.......13 years and still going strong ! LOL!


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