Pontiac - Street No question too basic here!

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 04-17-2019, 11:30 PM
Stan Weiss's Avatar
Stan Weiss Stan Weiss is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 5,045
Default

Anything to update?

Stan

__________________
Stan Weiss/World Wide Enterprises
Offering Performance Software Since 1987
http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/carfor.htm
David Vizard & Stan Weiss' IOP / Flow / Induction Optimization - Cam Selection Software
http://www.magneticlynx.com/DV
Download FREE 14 Trial IOP / Flow Software
http://www.magneticlynx.com/DV/Flow_..._Day_Trial.php
Pontiac Pump Gas List
http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_gas.htm
Using PMD Block and Heads List
http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_pmd.htm
  #22  
Old 04-18-2019, 06:27 AM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stan Weiss View Post
Anything to update?

Stan
It's cam break in day.

  #23  
Old 04-18-2019, 11:27 AM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

Break in procedure completed. There is some lifter noise. Small tick.

  #24  
Old 04-18-2019, 11:42 AM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

Lunati says to check lift and see if it lost any.

  #25  
Old 04-18-2019, 12:04 PM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

Started it up again to see what it sounds like. Not really a tick. More like just a little more valve noise than I'm used to with the small cam that was in it. Could this be normal? Do big cams make the valves make more noise? Would there be a sound change after moving to a bigger cam?

  #26  
Old 04-18-2019, 12:08 PM
pastry_chef's Avatar
pastry_chef pastry_chef is offline
Suspended
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 2,300
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TAQuest View Post
Would there be a sound change after moving to a bigger cam?
Can you post a video?

  #27  
Old 04-18-2019, 12:11 PM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

Video link;

https://share.icloud.com/photos/05b1...r_Township,_MI

  #28  
Old 04-18-2019, 12:13 PM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0KBt...r_Township,_MI

  #29  
Old 04-18-2019, 12:24 PM
steve25's Avatar
steve25 steve25 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Westchester NY
Posts: 14,753
Default

Are you push Rods all spinning well by 1200 rpm?

__________________
Wernher Von Braun warned before his retirement from NASA back in 1972, that the next world war would be against the ETs!
And he was not talking about 1/8 or 1/4 mile ETs!

1) 1940s 100% silver 4 cup tea server set.

Two dry rotted 14 x 10 Micky Thompson slicks.

1) un-mailed in gift coupon from a 1972 box of corn flakes.
Two pairs of brown leather flip flops, never seen more then 2 mph.

Education is what your left with once you forget things!
  #30  
Old 04-18-2019, 01:11 PM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

I haven't taken it back apart. Trying to decide if this is normal or not. Thanks for the great suggestion. It will be my first stop if I take it back apart.

  #31  
Old 04-18-2019, 03:17 PM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

Here is a link to a video where I put my phone right on the valve cover. Normal, not normal, any thoughts? https://share.icloud.com/photos/00pa...r_Township,_MI

  #32  
Old 04-18-2019, 03:38 PM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

Now I'm getting a backfire out the intake. Video link to that below;

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0rvT...r_Township,_MI

  #33  
Old 04-18-2019, 05:14 PM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

Took the covers off and everything looks normal. No lock nuts backed off. All the nuts have pools of oil in them.

An intake pop like that just about has to be springs.

  #34  
Old 04-18-2019, 07:20 PM
pastry_chef's Avatar
pastry_chef pastry_chef is offline
Suspended
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 2,300
Default

From the video I don't hear excessive valve train noise.

Intake pop could be ignition timing off, lean A/F or poor valve adjustment.

  #35  
Old 04-18-2019, 07:41 PM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pastry_chef View Post
From the video I don't hear excessive valve train noise.

Intake pop could be ignition timing off, lean A/F or poor valve adjustment.
I tried changing the timing and the intake backfire did not change.

The valves are adjusted properly. Not that hard and I took my time.

Doesn't seem like a carb adjustment. Seems like the valves are not getting held on their seats since the cam change. Didn't backfire before the cam change.

The springs are an unknown.

What would be the best springs for this application?

  #36  
Old 04-18-2019, 07:57 PM
Steve C. Steve C. is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Liberty Hill, Tx. (Austin)
Posts: 10,430
Default

"The springs are an unknown"

I thought it was stated at the very start of all this they were the valve springs as delivered from Edelbrock !

.

__________________
'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 )
Old information here:
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/

Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine)
5.14 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE
  #37  
Old 04-18-2019, 07:59 PM
ta man ta man is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Clinton,Ontario,Canada
Posts: 5,361
Default

Pull the plugs and check them all,double check all of plug wires for tightness on distributor and plugs. What is your timing set at ?

__________________

466 Mike Voycey shortblock, 310cfm SD KRE heads, SD "OF 2.0 cam", torker 2
373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
  #38  
Old 04-18-2019, 08:01 PM
johnta1's Avatar
johnta1 johnta1 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: now sunny Florida!
Posts: 21,294
Default

This is a hydraulic cam?
Adjustable locking nuts on rockers?


I'd back each intake adjuster nut off by 1/2 turn and see what it does?



__________________
John Wallace - johnta1
Pontiac Power RULES !!!
www.wallaceracing.com

Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova
Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats

KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever!


"Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts."

"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates
  #39  
Old 04-18-2019, 08:09 PM
Steve C. Steve C. is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Liberty Hill, Tx. (Austin)
Posts: 10,430
Default

Regarding the valve springs. You stated the cylinder heads were, quote.... "The heads are pre-assembled ones"

And weeks ago I suggested they were the single valve springs with no damper, p/n 5767.

If in fact they are installed at 1.800" then Edelbrock rates them at 120 lbs on the seat. And as already suggested they should of been tested.


.

__________________
'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 )
Old information here:
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/

Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine)
5.14 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE
  #40  
Old 04-18-2019, 08:09 PM
TAQuest TAQuest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 1,000
Default

I checked all the easy stuff.

The heads were bought back in 2003 by the previous owner who is deceased. I can't ask him if the springs were changed. Even if they are original they are unknown.

What I would like to do is change the springs to something that works with these heads and the cam. Something better than what was on these heads originally.

I have one recommendation earlier in the thread. Can I get some confirmation on that? Thanks.

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:27 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017