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Old 06-20-2007, 06:57 PM
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popular mail-order ford engine builders.
i hear primarily good things about them from folks in my shop.
a former employee just got a shortblock from them; it checked out and the machine work was nice, and he noted their service was very good and it was priced well.
JYD, the holley spreadbores you are talking about are reman'd q-jets; if you look at hollley's part number, you'll note the last 4 digits are edelbrock's old qjet #'s....(the 65-indicates a reman carb through holley's line)

I've got a 306 in the shop right now that was destined to be a vortec blown engine. DSS built it with dish pistons for just that reason. Well.....guess what. They did not align-hone it, or deck it (it has main studs). The thing was blowing head gaskets left and right. The housing bore on the mains is so far out, that the mains were eating into the crank. The rod bearings looked pretty good considering the metal they had going through them. It was also built with a stock .010/.010 crank (light casting).

Also, not the first one I have seen like it.

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Old 06-20-2007, 08:07 PM
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"The shop refused to believe the story and kept quoting their generic BS line that "every carb is inspected and tested..."

A buddy named Bill Klausing had a Q-Jet done by them that ran pig rich and on inspection it had no jets anywhere. So much for the above "Inspected" deal. I think that when Brad got sick the whole deal went down the tube and the "V. Brothers" bought the place without a clue either.

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My "Carb Shop" Qjet was done when Brad was still around early 90s. Came back with shavings in the secondary accel. pump well where they drilled it out and also put in replaceable secondary jets for the metering rods, and only one of the ball bearings they tapped in the idle bypass passages in themain body still in place. Did smell of gas like it was run. Idled worse than the stock similar model # did.


I cleaned it and ran it OK. It has since been tweaked by Cliff but not put on a motor since it was on his.

My current Holley 850 DP had shavings imbedded in the metering block gasket surfaces but none I could find in the carb and all passages looked good, runs great.

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Old 06-21-2007, 07:52 PM
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You can't risk buying a new carb and just bolting it on anymore without first taking it apart and cleaning it out. Unless you like metal shavings plugging everything up.

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You can't risk buying a new carb and just bolting it on anymore without first taking it apart and cleaning it out. Unless you like metal shavings plugging everything up.
Or unless you buy a Custom Holley from myself as I live test every build.

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Old 06-22-2007, 03:27 PM
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Or unless you buy a Custom Holley from myself as I live test every build.

Yup, I've seen Shaker455 do a test while I assisted slightly in person.

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Old 06-23-2007, 09:52 AM
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Shaker455, I've heard you do a good thing to 'em!! As for going and buying a new one at a local shop or ordering mail order say from summit or jegs, I wouldn't chance bolting it on without cleaning it out first!

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"Or unless you buy a Custom Holley from myself as I live test every build." Sam treating you right Shaker?

Shaker and Cliff both have very good processes where every carb they do is road tested on their own car prior to shipment.
I recommend either gentleman, Cliff for Q-Jets and Shaker for Holleys. I am friends with both of them.

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Hi Tom,
Yes Sam is treating me fine thanks but most times I talk to Julie.

Are you going to be at Norwalk this year?

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Heard this guy named Tom V was pretty good also, but his attitude sucks, and takes way to long to finish

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You can't risk buying a new carb and just bolting it on anymore without first taking it apart and cleaning it out. Unless you like metal shavings plugging everything up.
But then it's considered " USED " and you can not return it, even if it's a P.O.S.
Right, Barry Grant.....?

I agree with the statement though, but for this kind of money, you should not have too.
Right, Barry Grant.....?
I mean with such a stringent inspection process they put their high quality carbs through.

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Old 06-25-2007, 03:10 PM
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rugratman , you figured out the catch ya 22 with no recourse!! I agree, that for the money, it (a new carb) should be able to be bolted on without issues.

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Seems to be this case with alot of carb places. My best friend went through a string of bad Holley 800's until he took my advice and sent one to the "Carb Shop". I had read nothing but positive things about them in car magazines (first mistake) at that time, and encouraged him to try them out.

He sent all his specs on his RA-IV car and when he got it back, it was full of metal shavings. He is a perfectionist so I thought he was just being picky. I drove over his house to get a visual, and this thing was chock full of crap. After he thoroughly cleaned it out, he installed it on the car and tested it. It ran just as poorly as when he sent it to them! The shop refused to believe the story and kept quoting their generic BS line that "every carb is inspected and tested..." Needless to say, he never dealt with that place again, in addition to "passing along the information" to other potential victims.

Of course, this was quite a few years ago and it is entirely possible that the Carb Shop has improved since that time.
It's funny, I had my 301 Quadrajet sent to the Carb Shop to be rebuilt and modified for the 455 I built to replace the 301. The carb has never run right, leaks, and falls on it's face at anything above 4500 rpm. I have been sick of this carb for a while and thought about replacing with the Might Demon 825. I guess I'm not doing that now!!!

I think I'll send my carb to Cliff for proper rebuilding AND testing!!!


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"Heard this guy named Tom V was pretty good also, but his attitude sucks, and takes way to long to finish"

Only because he hung around for a short period of time with a guy named Mike Wachter. (:>))))))

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"Heard this guy named Tom V was pretty good also, but his attitude sucks, and takes way to long to finish"

Only because he hung around for a short period of time with a guy named Mike Wachter. (:>))))))

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Had a float stick yesterday.
Looked like paper gasket material. The bowl gaskets are neoprene.
Found tiny metal flakes in ther also. Not alot, but...

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That Tom Vaught can sure put down some Mexican food too!

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