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Take a look at this distributor gear please
I pulled the dist yesterday just for an inspection and noticed the poly gear has some wear. I'm running the comp XR288HR so I was told to run this gear. This is a 1000 miles.
Can I still run this gear or should I replace it? Just not sure if this might be normal break in characteristics of a poly gear? I have read I should have used brass for break in then switched to the poly. I don't want to spend another $125 and have this same issue. Thanks Brett
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Black 1978 Trans Am SE Clone Butler Performance 474 E heads Built 400 Trans with 3000 stall 17" Y/O 1978 Y88 4 Speed T Top PHS Docs Restored 1987 Grand national 4.1 Stroker Motor Just a 6 Cylinder Buick |
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get it out of there - I had one fail and it was at the worst time -- I think breaking it in with bronze then switching to the composite gear is a good idea -
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I guess I'll go bronze for a while and see what happens unless anyone else has a different opinion?
Thanks for the information cgeise!
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Black 1978 Trans Am SE Clone Butler Performance 474 E heads Built 400 Trans with 3000 stall 17" Y/O 1978 Y88 4 Speed T Top PHS Docs Restored 1987 Grand national 4.1 Stroker Motor Just a 6 Cylinder Buick Last edited by BARRACUDA1968; 06-11-2014 at 01:26 PM. |
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Agree with Curt! Run the Bronze, That's chewed up too much
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Darby 74 Grandville 2Dr 455 c.i 4550# 2011 1.60 60 ft,7.33@94.55-11.502@117.74 2017, 74 firebird -3600 lbs (all bests) 1.33 60 ft, 6.314@108.39 9.950@134.32 M/T 275/60 ET SS Drag Radial 2023,(Pontiac 505) 1.27 60 ft, 5.97@112.86, 9.48@139.31.... 275/60 Radial Pro's |
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Ya its chewed..I took fellow board members advise and ran a bronze gear for a Cpl hundred miles,then switched to a BOP..
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Ok so now I go to the bronze gear then what? Run that for how long? or maybe permanent?
I asked the business where I got my parts and a lot of advice which I won't name what might have caused this. I sent pictures. Here's the response; "We have not seen the issue before. 99% of the people use polymer gears because the bronze wear quicker. You may install the plug in the rear pass. Oil galley to oil the dist and cam gear. You can check the cam gear for a nick or bur." Opinions?
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Black 1978 Trans Am SE Clone Butler Performance 474 E heads Built 400 Trans with 3000 stall 17" Y/O 1978 Y88 4 Speed T Top PHS Docs Restored 1987 Grand national 4.1 Stroker Motor Just a 6 Cylinder Buick |
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My engine guy drills a small hole in the plug to help oil the gears back there.
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Darby 74 Grandville 2Dr 455 c.i 4550# 2011 1.60 60 ft,7.33@94.55-11.502@117.74 2017, 74 firebird -3600 lbs (all bests) 1.33 60 ft, 6.314@108.39 9.950@134.32 M/T 275/60 ET SS Drag Radial 2023,(Pontiac 505) 1.27 60 ft, 5.97@112.86, 9.48@139.31.... 275/60 Radial Pro's |
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I'm brand new to the Pontiac High Performance so I know we didn't do this during assembly.
What is my best option now to help my dist gears live?
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Black 1978 Trans Am SE Clone Butler Performance 474 E heads Built 400 Trans with 3000 stall 17" Y/O 1978 Y88 4 Speed T Top PHS Docs Restored 1987 Grand national 4.1 Stroker Motor Just a 6 Cylinder Buick |
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I've had that happen. You need to clean-up any rough edges on the cam gear before installation. Nothing too aggressive, you just want to polishing it a bit.
As mentioned, an .030 hole drilled into the oil galley plug to feed the gear is a common mod for street driving and longevity but I don't think it would have helped in this situation. |
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Did you have good endplay with the gear on the distributor it self? I always tighten it up from what it comes with...
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I used the plastic gear for quite a while on a cam that had been run with bronze previously and had no problems for a few years - only when I started swapping new cams in that had not been run before did I eat the gear up - it would seem that the bronze polishes the cam up so the plastic can live. Thick oil also puts a lot of strain on them. and the drilled galley plug is never a bad idea.
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I polished the gear on my billet SR cam with a wire wheel and cloth with brown rouge and used a BOP polymer gear and have had no wear on the dist gear.
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1967 Firechicken, 499", Edl heads, 262/266@0.050" duration and 0.627"/0.643 lift SR cam, 3.90 gear, 28" tire, 3550#. 10.01@134.3 mph with a 1.45 60'. Still WAY under the rollbar rule. |
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A bronze (or brass) gear does tend to wear. But the nice thing is that it won't suddenly fail (like polymer can)- as long as you check it now and then for faster-than-usual wear. So... run it until you tire of seeing the "sparkle" in the oil!
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Anybody else on this planet campaign a M/T hemi Pontiac for eleven seasons? ... or has built a record breaking DOHC hemi four cylinder Pontiac? ... or has driven a couple laps of Nuerburgring with Tri-Power Pontiac power?(back in 1967) |
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isn't there a concern with the brass flaking ?
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At this point I don't really want to pull the motor to clean up the cam and do any mods. I'm taking it that running the bronze gear will clean up the cam gear safely so I can go back to poly down the road?
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I think U would like around .020 endplay with HEI if I remember right? I would just run the Bronze for awhile longer to clean up that cam gear more than pull Bronze gear inspect, and if it looks good then switch back to a poly.
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Darby 74 Grandville 2Dr 455 c.i 4550# 2011 1.60 60 ft,7.33@94.55-11.502@117.74 2017, 74 firebird -3600 lbs (all bests) 1.33 60 ft, 6.314@108.39 9.950@134.32 M/T 275/60 ET SS Drag Radial 2023,(Pontiac 505) 1.27 60 ft, 5.97@112.86, 9.48@139.31.... 275/60 Radial Pro's |
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Thanks Darby
I got your text and I'm working on getting everything needed to modify the carb today.
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Black 1978 Trans Am SE Clone Butler Performance 474 E heads Built 400 Trans with 3000 stall 17" Y/O 1978 Y88 4 Speed T Top PHS Docs Restored 1987 Grand national 4.1 Stroker Motor Just a 6 Cylinder Buick |
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Do you use anything like a Super Lube Break-In Concentrate with your oil . I always do. Not saying that's why you have this problem. Just sharing what I do.....
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I did not use any type of break in oil etc because of it being a roller set up. We used normal assembly lube and primed the motor etc.
I also run ZZDP Zinc because I run magnum rollers rockers which are not a full roller rocker just roller tip.
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The ZZDP is good to use..
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