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Just 1-4.
I was not aware of the billet shift fork pads either. He just asked if I wanted them as they are typically included as a kit when they do the syncros. I said sure. I think this TKO is supposed to have at least the bronze pads in it but I'll find out when I tear it down a little later. I have to do a T-5 first. |
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Here are some pics of the old (defective) syncro blocker rings compared to the new ones. The old ones have a pebble like texture vs the slotted texture on the new ones. I tested them on the cones for friction/resistance to rotation and didn’t feel a measurable difference so hopefully there is a difference in real operation. I’m waiting on the bronze shift fork pads to wrap up the assembly.
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Will Rivera '69 Firebird 400/461, 290+ E D-Ports, HR 230/236, 4l80E, 8.5 Rear, 3.55 gears '64 LeMans 400/461, #16 Heads, HR 230/236, TKO600, 9inch Rear, 3.89 gears '69 LeMans Vert, 350, #47 heads: Non-running project |
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Wanted to update this- I installed the updated version of the carbon lined blocker rings last winter and per instructions from MDL, drove for over 500 miles to break in. After doing so I drained and filled with Pennzoil Synchromesh. I can now shift at 5500 rpm with no grinding in 3rd, like before.
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Will Rivera '69 Firebird 400/461, 290+ E D-Ports, HR 230/236, 4l80E, 8.5 Rear, 3.55 gears '64 LeMans 400/461, #16 Heads, HR 230/236, TKO600, 9inch Rear, 3.89 gears '69 LeMans Vert, 350, #47 heads: Non-running project |
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Good to hear. I forgot all about this. I finally got around to doing the one we talked about, I guess it's been 2 weeks ago now.
When I tested the new rings on the cones they were all very grippy compared to the rings I took out. So I knew it was going to be an improvement. I'm probably just reaching the break in period now, I'll have to check. Drives great. |
#25
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Hi Larry - I noticed the same on install - definitely more friction with the slotted design!
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Will Rivera '69 Firebird 400/461, 290+ E D-Ports, HR 230/236, 4l80E, 8.5 Rear, 3.55 gears '64 LeMans 400/461, #16 Heads, HR 230/236, TKO600, 9inch Rear, 3.89 gears '69 LeMans Vert, 350, #47 heads: Non-running project |
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Crap. My APT invoice is from 2019, so suspect I don't have the newer ones.
Guess I'm in the same boat, and will have to tear into it. Luckily, it hasn't been installed yet. Any idea of the cutoff date on the 'defective' items? Are there specific part numbers, or will they know what I'm talking about? .
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
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Mine was on layaway and paid off in 2019. I am of course long out of warranty and mine does it. I will be doing this repair further down the road
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#28
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Only a couple ways to know for sure. Either disassemble and look at a synchro, there is a distinct difference in design as you can see in the pics. Or just install and run it, see how it acts. Worth a call to your supplier though to see if they are helpful first. |
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I had mine out and done in a couple hours |
#30
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Forgot to mention, there is a pretty stout snap ring that has to come off the main shaft. If I remember it's in front of the 3-4 assembly. Takes a pretty robust snap ring plier to get a hold of it. Probably could be done with a small setup and couple small screw drivers mixed with some cuss words lol
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#31
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Yeah, will have to call APT, no biggie. Better I know now than after I install it!
I have a bunch of leftover tools from my Munchie days, could do one in my sleep just about, think I'm good on that end. .
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
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