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Old 12-02-2023, 04:42 AM
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I acquired a 68 QJet Part Number 7028262 B8 VC - originally thought it was a 69 and planned on keeping it for the bird. It was in operating condition when I received it a couple of years ago. All linkage moves freely. What’s she worth?
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Old 12-02-2023, 05:24 AM
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Is this a Price is Right question? $1.00 Sorry I'm a west coast guy up late.

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Old 12-02-2023, 05:26 AM
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Your carb is a "remanufactured" Frankencarb with a Carter made 7028262 float bowl and Buick airhorn and Buick throttle plate.
These kind of carbs usually have issues that takes a book to describe.

Value is in individual parts if you know what to look for, as a carb next to nothing i´m afraid.

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Thanks- look forward to additional responses. Educate me - how do you know it’s a mix of parts?

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Old 12-02-2023, 06:52 AM
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Well, LOTS of tell-tale signs of being a miss-match of parts. Buick throttle shaft/baseplate. Buick choke parts, 3/8" PCV vacuum tube used as a front vent. 2GC check ball retainer driver into the hole at the top of the choke tower in the airhorn.

It's also a Carter casting, not Rochester. They don't hold up quite as well from that time period and almost 100 percent of them will need a heli-coil for the fuel filter housing and many have already had the dreaded double "O" ring N/S instead of the screw in varity.

I wouldn't even work on those here when I still had the shop open doing carburetors. Lessons in humility await those who venture in that direction.......FWIW

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Thanks .

I was planning on rebuilding this 17058241 carb - is it a mix of parts as well?
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I don't know how to recognize the Frankencarbs like Kenth and Cliff but I can tell you that it's a Buick carb. At least the throttle plate. They have that funky, bent looking throttle arm. Actually, I would think that would be a pretty good one to build according to one of Cliff's recipes. I have one on the shelf myself. One good thing is the inlet being on the front like Pontiac.

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It looks about as original and unmolested as they come......

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Great - thank you. It moves freely- once I get an engine together I will contact you for rebuild kit.

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I don't know how to recognize the Frankencarbs like Kenth and Cliff but I can tell you that it's a Buick carb. At least the throttle plate. They have that funky, bent looking throttle arm. Actually, I would think that would be a pretty good one to build according to one of Cliff's recipes. I have one on the shelf myself. One good thing is the inlet being on the front like Pontiac.
I also got a lot of help identifying my Frankencarb. These people on PY are awesome.

What's the chance you experts could create a "How to ID a Frankencarb" sticky?

I learned a little but found it frustrating when, for example, I tried to use the casting part numbers to see if the body, airhorn, and throttle plate were "correct". I never found a listing... if this exists anywhere in Rochester or Delco literature, it would be a godsend.

I did learn that any carb with a blocking tab has been through a rebuilder...
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"Great - thank you. It moves freely- once I get an engine together I will contact you for rebuild kit."

Sounds great. We'll do a slight recalibration at the same time. I've built a lot of those and aside from the "goofy" linkage they make a great electric choke high performance unit.....

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I also got a lot of help identifying my Frankencarb. These people on PY are awesome.

What's the chance you experts could create a "How to ID a Frankencarb" sticky?

I learned a little but found it frustrating when, for example, I tried to use the casting part numbers to see if the body, airhorn, and throttle plate were "correct". I never found a listing... if this exists anywhere in Rochester or Delco literature, it would be a godsend.

I did learn that any carb with a blocking tab has been through a rebuilder...
Casting part numbers are for a "blank" casting prior to machining; they are not unique. One can sometimes use the casting numbers to get in the ballpark, but not to knock the home run.

A better use of the casting numbers is the negative side. If a carburetor doesn't have a certain casting, it isn't what it is supposed to be; but just because it has the proper casting number is not a positive identification.

A much more useful document would be a part number interchange, which Rochester actually printed........................................... .........in 1959! Have never seen a newer one.

I have spent hundreds of hours, perhaps thousands of hours, working on one, but a long way from complete.

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Casting part numbers are for a "blank" casting prior to machining; they are not unique. One can sometimes use the casting numbers to get in the ballpark, but not to knock the home run.

A better use of the casting numbers is the negative side. If a carburetor doesn't have a certain casting, it isn't what it is supposed to be; but just because it has the proper casting number is not a positive identification.

A much more useful document would be a part number interchange, which Rochester actually printed........................................... .........in 1959! Have never seen a newer one.

I have spent hundreds of hours, perhaps thousands of hours, working on one, but a long way from complete.

Jon
Thanks Jon

I appreciate the casting numbers were machined per application and therefore not definitive. I also get your point about the "wrong" casting number being an obvious mismatch.

I found it totally unexpected that each main part would not have a unique identifier after machining. I have no idea how they managed this in a factory but obviously they had a way.

Interesting and again, unexpected, about the lack of a "published" interchange document. I guess without a unique identifier on the machined part, such a document would have limited value.

Your list would be more like VERY valuable. I can't be the only one that's ever struggled to determine what he had or want to piece together a "correct" set of cast parts. Even being in the ballpark would feel like a home run after a couple hours of frustrating puzzle-solving.

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