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Old 05-20-2022, 07:45 AM
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I have acquired a 1970 WS Block with Main caps and standard bore. I am planning to use this motor in my 1969 Firebird project car that I am starting on. Before I take this engine to the machine shop for rebuild, I wanted to see if anyone here has the original car that this engine might belongs to. The date code on the block is C090 and casting # is 9799914. I am not sure of the best way to put this out there w/o revealing the entire serial # so input appreciated. If the car owner of this block can verify this block belongs to their car, I might consider an engine swap of another WS motor or equivalent. Thanks.

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Old 05-20-2022, 07:59 AM
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Just put out the last two or three digits. I had a YZ with that same date.

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Old 05-20-2022, 10:08 AM
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The last 2 of the # are 86 .

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The last 2 of the # are 86 .
You my friend are a hero. Lol sorry read some other threads and you’ll understand. Of that was an 88 not an 86 I’d lose my mind I swear. Anyways. My opinion. Not that it seems to be worth much anymore is. Post the full 6, only because maybe 3 years from now someone looking for their block finds it by searching it and possibly the can make a deal with you at a later date. Many try looking for their block that way. I’m the end they gotta send you a picture of their vin tag to prove they really have the car. Kinda hard to fake that. Easy to buy a PHS and all but having the actual VIN tag is Definitive. As stated in other posts in the end you only really need to entertain any kinda offer from someone who can prove they have the car. Otherwise build it and use. Good on you though for trying.

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Oh...this could get interesting.

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Oh...this could get interesting.
Nope I’m STAYING out of this one 🙄

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Old 05-23-2022, 09:33 AM
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Too cool. I got the motor from an owner in GA

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The other thing you can do is specify whether it came out of a GTO or a Firebird. The partial VIN would tell you that. I'm assuming it was a Firebird since you posted it in the Firebird tech section, but I thought I would ask.

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I don’t have the original engine or transmission for my 70 TA 4 speed car. PHS says it shipped on 3-24-1970. Any guesses of what date range my block would’ve been? I imagine early March would be cutting it too close. Just hoping to learn a few things

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I don’t have the original engine or transmission for my 70 TA 4 speed car. PHS says it shipped on 3-24-1970. Any guesses of what date range my block would’ve been? I imagine early March would be cutting it too close. Just hoping to learn a few things
Would also depend on the plant. LA built cars seem to have really early date codes. The block from my 04A Norwood built formula is C100 for reference.

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I don’t have the original engine or transmission for my 70 TA 4 speed car. PHS says it shipped on 3-24-1970. Any guesses of what date range my block would’ve been? I imagine early March would be cutting it too close. Just hoping to learn a few things
I mostly look at RAIV but I’ve seen from Nov to Jan. In March cars dint know if that’s correct or original Telli would know best IMO

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I don’t have the original engine or transmission for my 70 TA 4 speed car. PHS says it shipped on 3-24-1970. Any guesses of what date range my block would’ve been? I imagine early March would be cutting it too close. Just hoping to learn a few things
Gonna depend on the plant. Van Nuys cars have really early Date codes. Recently saw. Numbers matching 4 speed 03A car with a Dec dated block. My 04A cars block is C100. Interestingly it has a lower vin the. This block being discussed and this block is C090. If your car is a Norwood car I’d say and of Feb start of March is about right

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Gonna depend on the plant. Van Nuys cars have really early Date codes. Recently saw. Numbers matching 4 speed 03A car with a Dec dated block. My 04A cars block is C100. Interestingly it has a lower vin the. This block being discussed and this block is C090. If your car is a Norwood car I’d say and of Feb start of March is about right
I appreciate the info. My car is a Norwood car and about 5000 VIN’s earlier than the block in this thread. There’s actually another board member here with a TA that’s just a few VIN’s away from mine (like 5-8 IIRC) but I don’t think I got an answer when I asked if he had any of the original drivetrain. I’m just curious more than anything. It’s interesting how these cars were assembled

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I appreciate the info. My car is a Norwood car and about 5000 VIN’s earlier than the block in this thread. There’s actually another board member here with a TA that’s just a few VIN’s away from mine (like 5-8 IIRC) but I don’t think I got an answer when I asked if he had any of the original drivetrain. I’m just curious more than anything. It’s interesting how these cars were assembled
Yea, the first part of March then. Yours is a little lower then mine and it’s the 10th.

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My old 1970 Trans Am was built in the Van Nuys plant during the second week of April 1970 (04B). The original block was dated January 20, 1970 (A200) and the original M20 trans was dated April 2nd (P0D02A). The shipping date was May 11, 1970.

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Would the last 4 be 0986?

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Thanks for the kind words Fastassbird: The VIN on the block is:
20N 112586 . I am unsure how to tell if it is a firebird or GTO?? Dave

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N is for Norwood so it is for a Formula or Trans Am. Amd no sweat. Glad to see you’re trying to at least reunite it

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My '70 did not have a radio when new. When I purchased it it had an AM radio installed. Nothing listed on the documents I have shows a radio listed.

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My guess car was assembled in month of May if formula. Trans am had tighter date codes. My 70 Ra3 auto has block.code as 0a07 and assembled 1st week of March. But why go through all the trouble of trying to reunite things? I don't get it. It's ironic to see this and other topic of same Block. Is this thread strategically put here to influence the author of the other thread that's what I think. Does a person sell the block for more money than it's worth since car will regain value? It sounds like this will slow down anyone's project, maybe it's flipper heaven pipe dream stuff.

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