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Old 06-26-2023, 12:49 PM
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Default Took my 72 to the track.

So yesterday I took my 72 to the track for the 1st time. It was a learning experience. Im going replace the rear springs,shocks and control arms. My question is should I remove the traction bars. The 1st run it bogged down. 2nd run tire spun. 3rd run it bogged down but it was the best pass. I will post a picture of time slips. This is a stick shift car and the rear tire is a275/60/15 Mickey Thompson Et street radial pro. I am taking this car to Norwalk since my race car is down.

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Old 06-26-2023, 01:28 PM
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Leaving at the track on street tires with a stick is tough. Finding that sweet spot between bog and spin. Good luck! How hard is it to remove your traction bars? Try both ways and see?

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Old 06-26-2023, 01:44 PM
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I'd say it could be about a second quicker if it hooks good.

I'd try different launch techniques before I'd take the traction bars off?
They relocate the lower bar?


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Best money I spent to hook my old 66 gto 4spd street car at the track was putting poly bushings in lower rear arms, and using the adjustable roto-joints in the upper. I used standard bias drag slicks at the time. I recall the car ran around mid 12's with otherwise stock suspension. I did have airlift bags in the coils, but the car really did not seem to care.

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Have had a pair of those before.
Just searched, not Traction-Masters.... hmmm

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I'm going to take them off and see what happens.

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I had Stop-Hop bars, upper adjustable control arms with stock boxed arms with new polyurethane graphite bushings in my '65 and that thing would really hook and went low 12s.

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I'm going to take them off and see what happens.
Run it again with them but take all the slop out of them(no air gap)
Thats kind of like a slapper bar. The idea is to push the tire into the
pavement on launch.

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Your control arm bushings look hammered. I'd replace them for sure.

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I'm going to replace all the control arms. I really don't want to race this car but since my race car is down for the year I need something for Norwalk.

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I'm going to replace all the control arms. I really don't want to race this car but since my race car is down for the year I need something for Norwalk.
Got ya. Good luck and have fun! Should be a twelve in that thing once you get it hooked up.

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http://clutchtamer.com/

This is an interesting idea for a stick shift car. Basically a storm door cylinder. Can adjust the clutch-to-drivetrain "hit" to soften the shock load, to reduce bog and tire spin. I am assume an experience racer can slip the clutch successfully though.

There is a kit for modern hydraulic clutch setup also.

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There are centrifical assist clutches to that slows the grab to let it spin a hair also. I think a lot of the stick Stocker and SS cars use them.

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