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Old 11-11-2018, 04:31 PM
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He went 7.95 at Import Vs Domestic a few years ago at 3030#

What were u running there John?
Two tenths quicker. Pretty much inline with the difference in dyno numbers.

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Old 11-11-2018, 04:38 PM
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Yea 45 degree temps and YES it does make a difference. 8.30!s at Norwalk in 80 degree temps.

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Loading up and towing to the good tracks and fantastic air isn't for everyone.

Please stop trying to discredit those who do it.

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Old 11-11-2018, 05:15 PM
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Loading up and towing to the good tracks and fantastic air isn't for everyone.

Please stop trying to discredit those who do it.
No discredit Mike still ran good, just facts sorry you don’t like it but it is what it is!


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Old 11-11-2018, 06:23 PM
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Not even close. Don't kid yourself.
So, what are the numbers John. Mike shown 1160, right. What were you making before the Cvjuan engine. 1220 HP ?
Any way you want to cut it Mike getting within 50-60 of you with E heads with stock valve locations is quite a accomplishment.
To do that with less than half the money into the heads, all the more so.
No one will be crazy enough to even try what he did again. They will just pick a better head.
The High Port, 2x4 sheet metal effort would have been interesting anyway you look at it.
Sure enjoyed you two going back and fourth around here. Kept it interesting.

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Old 11-11-2018, 06:35 PM
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No discredit Mike still ran good, just facts sorry you don’t like it but it is what it is!


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Not just Mike ... I've seen you do it on several occasions to others as well.

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Old 11-11-2018, 06:40 PM
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Not just Mike ... I've seen you do it on several occasions to others as well.
I just state facts, I’m sorry if you don’t like facts! When comparing 2 cars facts are important.....apples to apples.


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Old 11-11-2018, 07:08 PM
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I just state facts, I’m sorry if you don’t like facts! When comparing 2 cars facts are important.....apples to apples.


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Facts? You don't have all the "facts"... That's what make your statememnt(S)
about the weather being the only contributing factor to a given performance bother me.


In Mike's case, since you brought him up...

That engine was apart and worked on between the Pontiac race (where is was less than 100%) and the Import vs Domestic race where he went 7.95.

There was a lot of work and dedication put in to that particular achievement.
Not just weather conditions.

So facts...Just facts...Not really. Troll on.


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Old 11-11-2018, 07:19 PM
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Facts? You don't have all the "facts"... That's what make your statememnt(S)
about the weather being the only contributing factor to a given performance.


In Mike's case, since you brought him up...

That engine was apart and worked on between the Pontiac race (where is was less than 100%) and the Import vs Domestic race where he went 7.95.

There was a lot of work and dedication put in to that particular achievement.
Not just weather conditions.

So facts...Just facts...Not really. Troll on.
I believe Mike said he had the trans out 4 times that weekend trying to get the most he could. Mike was not afraid of work for sure!!

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Old 11-11-2018, 07:23 PM
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I believe Mike said he had the trans out 4 times that weekend trying to get the most he could. Mike was not afraid of work for sure!!
Exactly...Along with my carburetor that he took with him to try.

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Old 11-11-2018, 07:45 PM
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So, what are the numbers John. Mike shown 1160, right. What were you making before the Cvjuan engine. 1220 HP ?
Any way you want to cut it Mike getting within 50-60 of you with E heads with stock valve locations is quite a accomplishment.
To do that with less than half the money into the heads, all the more so.
No one will be crazy enough to even try what he did again. They will just pick a better head.
The High Port, 2x4 sheet metal effort would have been interesting anyway you look at it.
Sure enjoyed you two going back and fourth around here. Kept it interesting.
You guys should pick on someone your own size...

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Old 11-11-2018, 08:29 PM
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Yea 45 degree temps and YES it does make a difference. 8.30!s at Norwalk in 80 degree temps.

GTO George


https://youtu.be/D0ka7sgImzY

Hey take a good look and get it through your f-ing head ! This is at 131 in Michigan, Take a good look at what people are wearing , jackets and pants or T shirts and shorts !!!!!!!!

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Old 11-11-2018, 08:32 PM
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Was he that heavily?
Yeah....E-heads!

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Old 11-11-2018, 08:33 PM
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Not even close. Don't kid yourself.
Hope you were looking in a mirror when you said this^^^

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Old 11-11-2018, 08:34 PM
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I just state facts, I’m sorry if you don’t like facts! When comparing 2 cars facts are important.....apples to apples.


GTO George
Atmospheric conditions don't effect power adder engines nearly as much....Fact!

PS.... your Lions screwed up today

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https://youtu.be/D0ka7sgImzY

Hey take a good look and get it through your f-ing head ! This is at 131 in Michigan, Take a good look at what people are wearing , jackets and pants or T shirts and shorts !!!!!!!!
Great video...thanks

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Old 11-11-2018, 08:56 PM
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He went 7.95 at Import Vs Domestic a few years ago at 3030#

What were u running there John?
I went a .73 on a bias ply slick. I think he went a .90 something on the radial and an .05 on the bias ply slick. That's around a 90-100hp difference. He showed around 1100hp on the track that day. Nothing to complain about.

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Old 11-11-2018, 09:03 PM
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I went a .73 on a bias ply slick. I think he went a .90 something on the radial and an .05 on the bias ply slick. That's around a 90-100hp difference. He showed around 1100hp on the track that day. Nothing to complain about.

You must be using the weight that you were at that day ,at his weight I just came up with 1207 hp.

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Ok.

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Old 11-11-2018, 09:15 PM
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Atmospheric conditions don't effect power adder engines nearly as much....Fact!

PS.... your Lions screwed up today
That's not true....

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Old 11-11-2018, 09:17 PM
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You must be using the weight that you were at that day ,at his weight I just came up with 1207 hp.
Dont confuse nepolian with facts.... it's a hard pill to swallow that your 80k motor only made 50hp more than a 40k motor..

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