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Still need to determine the model or part number so I can buy the proper rebuild kit for it.
Thoughts? |
#82
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A lot of them have a number stamped into the front of the carb., just under the passenger side mounting stud. It's stamped into the vertical edge just below that stud. I couldn't see it though, in your pics.
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
#83
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No stamped numbers. I double checked.
Seller tells me car it came off of had smog equipment. Does this help? |
#84
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If by smog equipment he means an air pump, well it might be CA car then, that would narrow it down a bit.
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#85
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Yep,if CA car there is only one kit.Tom
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#86
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Carb for a auto CA car is 4244 and kit number 867.Tom
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#87
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I will look into securing the carb rebuild kit.
On another note, I was going through my inventory of parts. I took a few pics of things I have questions on. 1. Distributor- Leave the points or convert to HEI?? (Budget is key but reliability even more important. 2. Fuel pump is what I pulled off car. 3. Looking at wiring harnesses and there are many variants- one asks if the system is transistorized or not.... ( I don't know what that means...) Thoughts? |
#88
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Transistorized ignition system. If you have a points distributor, then it's not transistorized. Transistorized ignition back then was some of the first electronic ignition systems out there. Pontiac tested these new things before they onto other makes years later. It was an option.
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Points work just fine and are plenty reliable with the required maintenance.
Had a stock points ignition in my daily driver '64 Tempest that had an essentially stock 455, I never had a single issue in 30K miles/5 years and it always started with the first flick of the ignition key. I checked the dwell once and made a minor adjustment during that time and smeared a little lube on the points cam, that's it.
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Ok. So to be clear- I have a points distributor that is NOT transistorized. (I want to make sure I buy the correct harness)
I keep getting conflicting information on distributors. Half the crowd claims a points system works just fine with no issues, the other camp claims HEI is the way to go because it's so much more reliable and easier to tune. While budget is a major consideration, reliability is more of a concern. I really do not want to be beholden to a "tuner" (For example: I will use older FI tech as opposed to the better FAST tuning and SD MAF's since my understanding is limited and I want to be able to address my own issues) Thus, I want to make the right choice for our application. If I keep this distributor I have what sort of brand name is considered "the best" as opposed to the cheap aka poor quality stuff? I suppose I will be able to use a stock coil or should it be upgraded? On another note, the Fuel Pump pictured above is what came off the car. It appears to have the fuel return line nipple (I think) It was AC Delco. Anyone have a preference? |
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Attached is a picture of the Rockauto pump for the vapor return line type. Don't know if AC makes these anymore.
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65 Tempest, 400, TH400 86 Fiero SE 2.8 |
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"...Half the crowd claims a points system works just fine with no issues, the other camp claims HEI is the way to go because it's so much more reliable and easier to tune..."
A points dist, with a Pertronix Ignitor elec conversion, is another possibility. But I don't think anything is ABSOLUTELY 100% reliable. http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor3/default.aspx http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pertronix-71...-/121903601584 https://www.amazon.com/Pertronix-711.../dp/B002Q34NI4 |
#94
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I'm sending a dizzy to Suntuned to rebuild it and install a pertronix module.Tom
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#95
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You treed me, Tom. I was going to suggest that he contact Suntuned for his distributor. As far as points sets, avoid the unitized ones (points and condenser in one piece) like the plague. Both Accel and Mallory used to manufacture good points sets. Niehoff was another good supplier.
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Ok. Mine does NOT have the extra nipple. I saw somewhere a suggestion that I could use a thermal gasket (small spacer) to prevent hot fuel and vaporization. Can this work?
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#97
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My brother (Chevelle guy) likes HEI's but usually retains the points distributors on his '60's Chevelles. He maintains the NAPA Echlin points are the best (unless you are lucky and find a genuine set of unused AC Delco points on eBay. Here is a link:
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ECHCS786 Hope this helps. (Echlin also has your condenser, rotor and cap; all very good quality, he says. Avoid the NAPA cheaper Mileage Plus brand.)
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Thanks I'll check it out!
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Think of points as a little periodic maintenance required. Think of HEI as little to no maintenance.
Without knowing what a full SunTuned setup cost, would that take things away from a budget build?
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I have yet to find info on the Sun Tuned rebuild cost. I don't mind spending a couple of buck if it's reasonable and the value is there. |
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