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patrick, out of curiosity, did you find a vin stamped in the frame or had it rusted away? if you did restamp the new frame in the same location after cleaning it up. it'll save a lot of hassle if the car ever gets inspected.

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Mike,

I think I have read that the VINs did not start getting put on frames & blocks on Pontiacs until 1967 even though the law went into effect in '66.

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I did determine that it is an A O smith frame and not a parish. Has 2 holes by the steering box not one.
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Mike,

I think I have read that the VINs did not start getting put on frames & blocks on Pontiacs until 1967 even though the law went into effect in '66.

may or may not have been law but my 57 international has the vin on the frame.

i just sold a buddy a 41 plymouth and it had an engine tag, body tag and a tag on the frame that was unreadable.

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Open house on the 29th. Have not heard if the yard has moved.

Only found 2 numbers a 5 and 8.
Just too pitted to find anything

I did read somewhere that once the steel is stamed the stamping is in the metal and can be retrieved. I would like to know how.

Chasing parts is fun.

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that all depends on how much penetration the welder has when the stamping's filled.

as i said if the car ever gets inspected by law enforcement and the numbers don't match it could open up a big bag of worms. according to the isp detective i talked to the chassis is what's titled. the visable vin, the frame and the drivetrain numbers should match for a legit car.

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I think I have read that the VINs did not start getting put on frames & blocks on Pontiacs until 1967 even though the law went into effect in '66.
They did put the VIN on the block for a while in the early 60s, although I don't recall the exact years. My '61 has the VIN stamped on the block. Don't know about the frames.

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So I will just keep the original frame. I do not know how or where to store but will find something. Just like moms gto as long as I am alive neither her gto nor my 2+2 will ever be sold.
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I called my freind at the State Police as well. I was sent to the BMV. Everything is fine. The body has the correct tags. All the BMV said was to keep the title from the doner car.

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Just an update. Has been real slow getting the frame from the parts car. Many thanks to Steve at Indiana Pontiacs and Mike Nixon for helping. It was a cold misty day. But a fun day. Redi strip called today and I will pick it up on Monday.

It is very very nice. Only one very small 2-3mm hole that needs plugged. The cross member brackets need to be straightened just little.

One thing I noticed the front sway bar off the Grand Prix is 5/8th and my 2+2 is 3/4.? Visually looking I did not measure.

Heavier sway bar part of the heavy duty suspension. (your thoughts Mike.)

Core support came out very nice as well. One small patch under the battery tray and it will be excellant.

I will post some pictures Monday Night.

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the handling pkg ,from memory here, consisted of the larger sway bar, heavier spring rates and a different tire size. your 'vert already had the hd frame in place.

that frame's a nice peice.

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pictures of new frame and core support.

much better than the original.

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more of the frame and core support the one small rust hole that needs plugged
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patrick, is that the support off of the body i have here?

they both cleaned up nice.

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Yes it is. Just the one area under the battery box that need repair.
Do you need it? I have 2 more but one is not very good.
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Patrick,

There is something wrong with your frame - I'm not seeing any rust holes!!!

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Patrick,

There is something wrong with your frame - I'm not seeing any rust holes!!!

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give it time ron, give it time.


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Yes it is. Just the one area under the battery box that need repair.
Do you need it? I have 2 more but one is not very good.
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no, not at this time anyway. i was just asking.


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Yeh finally some paint. DP90LF primer sealer. But look its black. It is so pretty.

Have to order the paint. Keep these warm day for a little while longer.

Thanks to Ron @ clearcreek restorations for his advice on the DP90LF

More coming soon.
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Where on the frame is that stamp?

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Check the right rear corner. (passenger side rear)
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After the sealer, frame is now primed. After Thanksgiving will get the final paint on.
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