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It was a stand alone option for all 3 years, I believe but was part of the GT package all 3 years.
'70-'72 (GT-37 and LeMans GT)
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Misconception with some younger fans is that the T-37 and GT-37 are same package/trim/etc. But, the T-37 was new name for base Tempest model, not a performance pack as GT.
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It was not a perormance pack but an apperarance pack on the T-37 2 dr ht in '71 and on the Tempest T-37 2 dr post or ht in '70. Only real 'performance' in the package was the Hurst shifter for the 3 speed and the 3 speed was a hd unit.
Any engine option on the GT-37 was also on the T-37 2 dr. They just tried to make it look like a GTO wannabe. It was like the 'Heavy Chevy'.
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I would think potential buyers would see the standard GT-37, dual exhaust with chrome tips, sport mirrors, hood pins, Hurst T, and stripes as both performance and appearance.
A post T-37 vs GT-37 just looks better and faster. IMHO It may not be true but that was the marketing behind it.
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Also, base engine on the GT-37 was the 2bbl 350, while base on the T-37 was the six banger.
The GT-37 was meant to be a sporty car for someone that couldn't afford a GTO or the insurance on a GTO.
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1966 GTO 1969 Lemans Convertible- F.A.S.T. legal family cruiser. 12.59 on G70-14 Polyglas tires. 1.78 60' 1969 Bonneville Safari- cross country family cruiser. . 1979 Trans Am 400, 4-speed, 4 wheel disc. View from the drivers seat racing down Atco Raceway- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhYDMdOEC7A Ride along in the other lane-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIzgpLtF_uw |
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I knew of 2 around my neighborhood back in the 70's. Nobody else has ever heard of them.
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And what goatless said.... Insurance was the muscle car killer back then.
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BJ
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Hood pins
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72 LeMans order form: http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1679 http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1682 70 Accessories Catalog: http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=973 71 Accessories Catalog: http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1047 72 Accessories catalog: http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1101 |
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BJ, I bet the T-37 w/1 bbl straight six with three on the tree kept a few teenagers for opting for that car...
Not sure how a dad wouldn't view a standard GT-37 as performance compared to the standard T-37? I forgot about the wheel/tire combo too.
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Mike/Illinois |
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When one ordered the GT package you had to a V8 engine first on the 2 dr T-37. Then and only then was the GT package available. The 350 did not come with the GT option but the GT option was based on first ordering the a V8. Any of them would do up to the the 400 base GTO engine in '70 and the 455 HO in '71. Had to order the endura nose to get the 455HO in '72.
You have to remember the GT option requred separately ordering the V8 first.
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Not sure that doesn't apply to other option packages..or does it matter?
Salesman to buyer: If you want get a GTO but, you have to order a 400 or bigger and accept the endura front end. If you still want a V8 and great looks get the GT-37 option that can be orderd only with a 350 V8 or bigger, plus you get HD 3-speed or better, dechromed rally IIs with white letter tires, sport mirrors, dual exhausts with chrome splitterss, hood pins, and body stripes that look way cool on their own....Pontiac got it right. IMO
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I agree. Pontiac got it right with the GT package. It lookes much better than the chebby version and it kinda looked like a Judge because of the stripes in '71 (early). I looked at the GT package when I ordered the T-37 in '71 and decided I did NOT want a car that would look cool. I just wanted one that went fast. Had to have carpets though and an AM radio(we did not have an FM station in Kodiak, AK). Those 2 and the optional vinyl covered seats were the only 'luxury' options. The other 6 options were all performance.
I have not seen a silver '71 GT 37 but wonder what it would look like. Anyone else seen one? Just an fyi. For thosw who are wondering, if you will do a GT-37 search in this forum you will find a lot of very good and accurate information.
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BTW, to get back on track. Those pictures are GREAT!!!!
Bring more when you get them.
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Must've been a cool car when new, with the blue stripe. |
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That is one SICK picture. Sure would like to have seen it new. Blue would be odd with a black interior. But again this maybe just me.
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agreed. I did a lot of research using this forum right before I bought my car. That was almost 4 years ago.
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http://gloryrestoparts.20megsfree.com/ 1970.5 Pontiac Tempest GT-37 400ci 4bbl 4sp 3.90:1 12.73 @ 112.42 2011 Pure Stock Drags 12.71 @ 110.58 2013 Martin FAST/FS race 12.70 @ 111.74 2014 Pure Stock Drags 12.60 @ 111.66 2015 Martin FAST/FS race 1968 Pontiac Firebird 400 TH400/3.08 open export car - factory heater delete 14.48 @ 95.86 w/ 2.14 60' 2018 Pure Stock Drags 14.47 @ 95.02 w/ 2.16 60' 2019 Martin FAST/FS race |
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from 2007 http://www.youtube.com/user/PureStoc.../9/-gcBjk5RCE0 from 2009 (2008 was rained out not to mention my car was sick) http://www.youtube.com/user/PureStoc.../5/bzzU0iXCM-c from 2010 Martin June FAST/FS race (I think I missed 3rd gear on this run) http://www.youtube.com/user/PureStoc.../0/cEPa1l8O2gE There are also some of Steve's 71 GT-37 2009 http://www.youtube.com/user/PureStoc.../2/N8lHvc4jssI 2006 (he got a little loose off the line) http://www.youtube.com/user/PureStoc...10/OZsVMc-DF6M If anyone is interested in anything Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag related, here is the You Tube channel. http://www.youtube.com/user/PureStockDrags
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http://gloryrestoparts.20megsfree.com/ 1970.5 Pontiac Tempest GT-37 400ci 4bbl 4sp 3.90:1 12.73 @ 112.42 2011 Pure Stock Drags 12.71 @ 110.58 2013 Martin FAST/FS race 12.70 @ 111.74 2014 Pure Stock Drags 12.60 @ 111.66 2015 Martin FAST/FS race 1968 Pontiac Firebird 400 TH400/3.08 open export car - factory heater delete 14.48 @ 95.86 w/ 2.14 60' 2018 Pure Stock Drags 14.47 @ 95.02 w/ 2.16 60' 2019 Martin FAST/FS race |
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1972 Pontiac LeMans Thanks to Fuelab Digital Fuel Delivery Quarter-Max Chassis and Racing Components |
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bumping this back to the top.
Next week, fri and sat, Sept 16 and 17, Steve and I along with 120+ or our closest friends will be back at the Mid Michigan Motorplex for the 2011 Pure Stock Drags. If we line up again, I should have you covered this time Steve :-)))
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http://gloryrestoparts.20megsfree.com/ 1970.5 Pontiac Tempest GT-37 400ci 4bbl 4sp 3.90:1 12.73 @ 112.42 2011 Pure Stock Drags 12.71 @ 110.58 2013 Martin FAST/FS race 12.70 @ 111.74 2014 Pure Stock Drags 12.60 @ 111.66 2015 Martin FAST/FS race 1968 Pontiac Firebird 400 TH400/3.08 open export car - factory heater delete 14.48 @ 95.86 w/ 2.14 60' 2018 Pure Stock Drags 14.47 @ 95.02 w/ 2.16 60' 2019 Martin FAST/FS race |
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