[Money Pit]

Glenn are you going to Empire tomorrow?

Jeff

[Glenn Lever]

Originally Posted by Money Pit

Glenn are you going to Empire tomorrow?

Jeff

Yes, that is the plan to race with the gasser gang

[Money Pit]

I will stop by and say hello.

I will be there with my silver 68 GTO.

Switched to alky last year never had any problems. I'm running a ProSystems 1100 alky carb, wish I could help.

[Glenn Lever]

Originally Posted by Money Pit

I will stop by and say hello.

I will be there with my silver 68 GTO.

Switched to alky last year never had any problems. I'm running a ProSystems 1100 alky carb, wish I could help.

Gassers park in the third row in the sportsmens pits, see you there. I'm going out right now to plumb the bypass back to the tank.

[GTOGEORGE]

Just a little FYI.................don't go over 8.5-9 psi on the fuel pressure it will blow right through the needle & seat!

Ditto on the Comp 250 or similar Alky pump, you need a lot of volume when running Alky. Also what I do is block the return from the pump to the cell and use a return regulator (no.10) back to the fuel cell.

I haven't read through all the post so I don't know if these suggestions have been made. Good Luck at the Track!


GTO George

[Glenn Lever]

Ok, back from the track.

With the help of a bunch of people;

We came away as Number one Qualifier in the Gasser Gang's Mod Gas class (all center steer vehicles and door cars 1970 and older) and finished in the money (way down, but did bring home some bucks!).

All of the above fixes were incorrect.

After much scratching of heads and contemplation, Paul notice the tops of the intake gasket was missing on the 1,3 and 2,4 runners on the intake. Sure enough that part of the gasket had been scuked into the intake. We tried silicone but it sucked that in also, then we laid wire ties across the holes and used 5 minute epoxy on top of that and the Red Green fix held for the day.

Three sets of gaskets will be ordered on Monday, one for the fix and two for the trailer.

[johnta1]

Congrats, Glenn!

Also on finding your problem.

[twooldgoats]

Glad you found the problem, Glenn and know exactly what caused it. So often, when I try a bunch of fixes at once, I'm not sure afterwards which one worked.

Congratulations on being in the money!

Jim

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Glenn Lever

All of the above fixes were incorrect.

Quote: "It is the front half of the engine that is not running right in that the EGTs on those cylinders are low. The front two cylinders are not firing at all when idling at the end of the evening.

The thinking is the front half is either way to rich or way to lean."

After much scratching of heads and contemplation, Paul notice the tops of the intake gasket was missing on the 1,3 and 2,4 runners on the intake. Sure enough that part of the gasket had been sucked into the intake. We tried silicone but it sucked that in also, then we laid wire ties across the holes and used 5 minute epoxy on top of that and the Red Green fix held for the day.

I typically glue the gaskets to the Intake Manifold. Later it might take some effort to get them off but they do not move, I don't care how much "suction" they have on them. A quality gasket should not come apart, even with alcohol fuel close by.

1) So how did you install these gaskets? Different from the INDY passes?

2) How is your head and intake alignment? Is it parallel surface to surface? I would assume that it is ok based on the Indy flawless runs.

3) When in doubt blame it on the carb. I would keep a can of carb cleaner close by and spray around the intake the next time the carb is assumed to be the problem.

Tom Vaught

[Glenn Lever]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

I typically glue the gaskets to the Intake Manifold. Later it might take some effort to get them off but they do not move, I don't care how much "suction" they have on them. A quality gasket should not come apart, even with alcohol fuel close by.

1) So how did you install these gaskets? Different from the INDY passes?

2) How is your head and intake alignment? Is it parallel surface to surface? I would assume that it is ok based on the Indy flawless runs.

3) When in doubt blame it on the carb. I would keep a can of carb cleaner close by and spray around the intake the next time the carb is assumed to be the problem.

Tom Vaught

The intake never came off between Indy and the problem. I have no idea why it sucked in.

Surfaces match perfect.

I feel stupid. I can not tell you how many times I have told someone to take a can of carb cleaner and spray around the intake to look for a leak.

[Glenn Lever]

Originally Posted by Money Pit

I will stop by and say hello.

I will be there with my silver 68 GTO.

Switched to alky last year never had any problems. I'm running a ProSystems 1100 alky carb, wish I could help.

Was that you parked across from us?

[Money Pit]

Originally Posted by Glenn Lever

Was that you parked across from us?

Yep that was me.

My racing conflicted with yours! Walked over one time you must have been in the staging lanes. Last time at the end of the night walked over again and you must of packed it up.

The fed looks beautiful!!!

The organizer for GRS stopped by to talk to me about joining, seriously thinking about it...

Nice to see you take some money and #1 qualifier with that fed Pontiac Power.

Me I went red in the first round of Pro...I kill it in time trials but get to pumped up come elim's trying to catch that perfect light. Got to learn to race your own race, easier said than done!

[Glenn Lever]

Originally Posted by Money Pit

Yep that was me.

My racing conflicted with yours! Walked over one time you must have been in the staging lanes. Last time at the end of the night walked over again and you must of packed it up.

The fed looks beautiful!!!

The organizer for GRS stopped by to talk to me about joining, seriously thinking about it...

Nice to see you take some money and #1 qualifier with that fed Pontiac Power.

Me I went red in the first round of Pro...I kill it in time trials but get to pumped up come elim's trying to catch that perfect light. Got to learn to race your own race, easier said than done!

I hate when you beat yourself.

[screamingchief]

Originally Posted by Glenn Lever

All of the above fixes were incorrect.

Sorry,but I beg to differ with you on that deal Glenn.

Go back to my post #9,towards the bottom,one sentence said,and I quote:

Originally Posted by screamingchief

That,and as always be sure to check closely for any vacuum leaks.

So I had felt that a vacuum leak might've been the problem here,and I advised looking for such as well,I just could'nt tell you exactly where the vacuum leak was gonna be,so yeah,while I'll concede that I'm pretty good @ times,I'm also not a psychic or such.



I can only offer suggestions,I can't make others heed them.

FWIW

Bret P.

[Glenn Lever]

Originally Posted by screamingchief

Sorry,but I beg to differ with you on that deal Glenn.

Go back to my post #9,towards the bottom,one sentence said,and I quote:



So I had felt that a vacuum leak might've been the problem here,and I advised looking for such as well,I just could'nt tell you exactly where the vacuum leak was gonna be,so yeah,while I'll concede that I'm pretty good @ times,I'm also not a psychic or such.



I can only offer suggestions,I can't make others heed them.

FWIW

Bret P.

I stand corrected.

Actually I was refering to the corrections I made this weekend at the track to fix the problem.

[screamingchief]

Oh,ok,I get what you were saying now.

I was just giving you a hard time anyways Glenn.



Bret P.

[Glenn Lever]

Originally Posted by screamingchief

Oh,ok,I get what you were saying now.

I was just giving you a hard time anyways Glenn.



Bret P.

No problem I can take it I have broad shoulders.

[Glenn Lever]

Ok, put the last bolt in and set the scoop on it. I will fire it up in the morning. No racing this weekend as I have other stuff that needs to be done.

Intake runners were enlarged to fully cover the gasket.

Gasket is Mr. Gasket #503G

[Glenn Lever]

Well The Pontiac engine has been refreshed and now makes 652 HP!

http://youtu.be/1m2jRDBoIcw

Video is produced and posted by Thomas Deyle

[Glenn Lever]

We have been plagued with a close to overheating problem. I can drive to the staging lanes, make the run, drive back to the pit and be at 180 to 200. There have been may proposed fixes for the problem. We decided to go with restricting water from the front two ports on the heads, and pulling water from the rear ports. The rear ports are normally plugged. There is an adapter made to allow you to do this and it bolts onto the stock filler neck. We drilled and taped the back side of the water crossover. I have this adapter, but it would have required us to run the rear water return lines on the outside of the intake. So....

I bought brass hex head female plugs, cut them off even with the heads and drilled 1/2 inch holes in them (equal to the holes in the AN fittings in the rear). We cut slots in them so I can use a large screw driver to both install and remove them.









Now the "hard" part. We could have run braided line between the fittings, and I thought about doing that, I was worried about expansion of an aluminum hard line between the fittings, but it was pointed out to me that the heads are also aluminum and should expand at the same rate. So we made up aluminum hard lines that fit exactly between the fittings.
All lines are finger tight, no stress on any of them or the crossover and the bolt holes for the crossover are centered on the threads for the bolts in the heads.





Link to the web site with additional pictures is

http://www.leverfamilysite.com/2010_...2012_04_25.htm