[blackcloud]

Hey what ever happened with the GT-37? Did you get the PHS? Curious to see how it was originally equipped.

[UPC-WU2]

Yeah, it's been 6 weeks. We're on pins & needles!

[Jack Peters]

Quote from UPC-WU2. "Yeah, it's been 6 weeks. We're on pins & needles!"

That has to be unconfortable if not down right painful with hemoroids. LOL

MORE INFO NEEDED HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[alcohol4me]

sorry guys got distracted with work and haven't had much time lately, have all the forms printed off just gotta fax them in, I will let you know when i get the break down.

[alcohol4me]

Finally got around to Faxing in my PHS request, and 20 mlnutes later got back the faxed copy of customs documentation. And it says T-37 with the following options vinyl trim, 4bbl 400 eng.(34K), p/b radio(401), pl frt mats(521),GT option(334), 4 spd(35?)cant tell from fax if is e or g, trim pkg(514) and cust carpets(524). Hopefully there will be more info in complete package as to production numbers and such

[UPC-WU2]

Congratulations! You have a 400-4bbl 4-speed GT-37!

According to Eric White's book:
The engine sales code should be 34L, not 34K.

From your fax, can you read the price for the transmission?
35E would cost $195.36
35G would cost $237.60

You have such a cool car on your hands, in Canyon Copper to boot.

[alcohol4me]

according to the customs form, neither of those prices corespond to the trans, they have it listed as a $151.70 option and the engine code is very readable and it is 34K, hopefully the rest of the package will answer the questions

[OVERULD]

Very Cool! Nice find.


BJ

[UPC-WU2]

In my pile of GT-37 literature I found that the L78 400-4bbl is in fact code 34K.
Maybe a typo in Eric's book?
Strange that you said your car had rocker panel moldings (724), but they aren't listed on your PHS. Maybe they were added later.

Anyway, that's a sweet car! What are your plans for it?

[Ron Landis]

Originally Posted by UPC-WU2

A 400-4bbl/4 speed GT-37 is rare as hell. Only 572 built with 400-4bbl. Even fewer with 4-speed.

All GT-37s were bench seat cars. All 1971 GT-37s came with hood pins, dual exhaust with chrome splitters, body-colored sport mirrors, vinyl stripes, Rally II wheels w/o trim rings.
Your GT-37 was built at Pontiac, Michigan in April 1971, four months after mine. It was originally Canyon Copper Metallic with Sandalwood interior. And likely has the 1971-1/2 full-length "bayonnet" stripes instead of the 2-color "eyebrow" stripes that the earlier cars got. A 400-4bbl/4 speed engine code would be WK.

Welcome to the forums, and post some pictures of that GT-37!
I am building a GT-37 website/registry that will be online someday. Hopefully this fall.

actually referred to as the "sword stripe"? Just curious. Ron

[Ron Landis]

Sweet cars...I luv 'em! The 400/4 speed is killer! Don't put too much stock into PHS. I'll get killed for this but I know for a fact that they are NOT infallible. My '69 GTO ragtop was a verified numbers matching one owner two barrel car but PHS had it listed as a YS car! Also had the firewall grommets for hide-aways which it didn't have. I believe the order was altered on the line, but purely a guess on my part. Other sources listed car as one of 215 or one of 216...depending on source. Just saying....looks like you got the real deal and I wouldn't concern myself with the rocker moldings not being listed. Stranger things have happened. Nice ride. Do her proud! Ron

['ol Pinion head]

Sweet project, 400-4spd, & like the color. Envious that you have all vinyl interior... don't have to deal with a parody cloth/vinyl seat restoration, much easier to correctly restore the all vinyl seats.

As you prob have figured out, not many factory 400 4spd GT-37s have survived. Out of 572 400 4bbl 1971 & 71 1/2's built, I've long estimated 250 or so were 400 automatic cars, with the remaining 322 (or so) being divided between the base transmission HD 3 spd cars & the cars ordered with M20 or M22's. The exact number produced will never be known, just basing the estimates of trans useage on what I've compiled in nearly 20 years of research, the GT-37 survey, & many conversations with previous owners.

Wondering about the rocker moldings being original installed or not, when the fenders come off during resto process, the fender date codes are stamped on the flanged metal area near the parking lights. Can also look for evidence at the bottom of the fender of the factory rectangular hole & plastic grommet that the front screw attaches through the rocker molding. Original dated fenders & the factory stamped hole... chances are the rocker moldings were factory installed.

[alcohol4me]

When i took the fenders and rocker mouldings off it was quite obvious that the mouldings were a factory installed option, cause as a pretty good bodyman i dont know anyone that can weld clip studs on with a stud spotter that perfect. The document i got was only some import papers for customs clearance, hopefully the full package will clear the air.
As for what i plan to do with the car, i have sold it twice in the past and it always came back so maybe it is an omen that i should sell my mopar collection and restore it. Does anyone have any idea what a car like this would be worth when restored, it is numbers match only thing im not sure of is when i bought the car it had an open rear end, but it went out in a blaze of glory smokin off a set of N50s, so i found a clutch plate posi from a 69 Gutlass and stuffed it in, it still has original gear set.
So anyone wanna buy a 70 SuperBee? Just kiddin guys, dont kick me out.

[CT Goat]

Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head

As you prob have figured out, not many factory 400 4spd GT-37s have survived. Out of 572 400 4bbl 1971 & 71 1/2's built, I've long estimated 250 or so were 400 automatic cars, with the remaining 322 (or so) being divided between the base transmission HD 3 spd cars & the cars ordered with M20 or M22's. The exact number produced will never be known, just basing the estimates of trans useage on what I've compiled in nearly 20 years of research, the GT-37 survey, & many conversations with previous owners.

I find this curious because I thought you knew everything there was to know about these cars. I, for one, have a listing done my Fred Simmonds where he breaks down the GT-37 by engine. For 1971, 170 GT-37s had the 400-4 auto, while 402 had the same engine with a stick. I have no info how many of those were 3- and 4-speeds.

['ol Pinion head]

CT Goat,

The '71 official production sheets I have that Fred Simmonds put together (around '89) only shows the 572 total for '71 400 4 bbl production. You may have a newer version. Mind sharing a copy? Thanks

[CT Goat]

PM sent.

[UPC-WU2]

Roger it's good to have you back. Haven't seen you here in a while.

[RAIVJUMB]

One of mine is a lucerne blue on black 400/4bbl black bench car with drip moldings, carpet and PS from the factory. I liked the color combo so I bought it, restored it a few years ago, but have not had it out a whole lot due to way too much travel/time away from home. Mark

[OVERULD]

Originally Posted by RAIVJUMB

One of mine is a lucerne blue on black 400/4bbl black bench car with drip moldings, carpet and PS from the factory. I liked the color combo so I bought it, restored it a few years ago, but have not had it out a whole lot due to way too much travel/time away from home. Mark

Post up some pictures when you get a chance please.

BJ

[RAIVJUMB]

I have this one which is from a while ago and I will try to attach it here, never done that before. I built this car with some outside Ideas, changed the rally II to 15 inch steel with poverty caps and currently running a loaner 455 ho from one of my other cars and an M-22 other than that fairly correct. I saw no evidence of any stripes on the cars paint, not sure what the story with that is. Mark