[PONTIAC DUDE]

Your so funny dude. I'm not defensive. I just can't understand how you come to the 800hp on pump gas then say you put sh*t in the fuel and added Nitrous. What you basically mean is it's a 600hp engine, right. Without power adders. RIGHT????? they have been building these for about 5 years now. You haven't been snowed in that long up there, have you? hahahahahaha. I hope the dude flies and hammers the competition. That's what I like to see too. Your just stating facts for this dude's engine that aren't true in your opening post!!!
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Gach
Sr. Member
Posts: 840
From: R. I.
Registered: May 2000
posted 01-05-2001 08:12 PM
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Pump gas street motor, 87 cc Edelbrock heads, dosen't get any better then this ( can you say some 8.'s, is very possible, in a 3200 lb car ) with a 3200 stall convertor, and a 3.55 gear. With a .030 Poncho 455. Here's the numbers
4800 rpms......823 lbs torque !!!... BSFC....0.313, just dosn't get any better !!
800 hp @ 5800 rpms, with a BSFC....of....0.321...

Could this be the first real pump gas motor to run in the 8's...we'll see.

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Gach
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Posts: 840
From: R. I.
Registered: May 2000
posted 01-06-2001 08:45 PM
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½ Stud, the horespressure numbers @ 4800 rpms are 752 hp. It's funny to sit back and watch a few jump to conclusions, with out knowing the facts. I said the motor was a pump gas motor, I never said that it was dyno on 93 actane gas, with out any power adders.
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I guess then anyone can make "Doctored" claims.
If your gonna Talk the Talk, then walk the walk!!!!
You should sell cars. LOL......No money down,,,,however after 90 days there's 24% interest, compounded daily, hahahahaha.
Give me "REAL" 800 hp #'s dude, then I'll pat ya on the back.......and even give ya a reach-a-round, LOL.
Somebody's War wagon....Now that's funny. Hahahahahahaha.
BTW: The freakin spellchecker went nuts in the middle of this post. Took me an hour to get it through... Later, Buddy

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[Gach]

Dude, man your really unbelievable, now your really twisting the facts, Qoute from you {Your so funny dude. I'm not defensive. I just can't understand how you come to the 800hp on pump gas then say you put sh*t in the fuel and added Nitrous.}Show me were I said that Dude, you CAN'T!

Dude, that's out right LYING, no were does it say, I said, I put s.hit in the fuel and added Nitrous' MAN! your unbelievable ! What I did say was, ( I never said I dyno the motor on 93 actane gas with out any power adders, ( nitrous is a power adder ) then I said I use 150 hp shot of nitrous. it's still a pump gas motor no matter how you look at it. Every one knows when you use the juice you use race gas. This guy will drive this thing around on the street on pump gas, and have a sperate tank for the nitrous, isn't that what you, and everyone else does with nitrous. Your trying to make like I'm
on here trying to deceive people.That's not true at ALL ! Your just trying to turn this into some thing it's not. Look at the dates from the day I post this topic, Friday, 8 pm. Look at the date and time I responded, Saturday. 8pm. Sorry if I'm not sitting by my computer every waking minute of the day, but if you really want to turn this into some thing that's it not, be my guess, problem is I don't think anyone is buying it.

[Gach]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PONTIAC DUDE:
Zedo, It "Won't" run on pump gas without pulling timing out. And you and I both know how fast HP #'s drop when the octane taint there and timings pulled!!! Guess around 50 or so HP??? Minimum?? Now take the 150 shot out, your at 650 hp. Take the 50 hp out (for retarding timing, etc.) for over building the Engine for STREET use. 600 hp. Hell, I'm making 575 hp with 9.5-1 with a 428!!!!! 300 passes (@800 hp or better) and street time. Nothing special. See, All ya have to do is read between the lines and buy a BS filter for your computer. I think it's rather funny myself. Hahahahaha. Gach, stay away from the Vino, dude. LOL.
Hope this isn't another one of these "Fastest STREET CAR in the Universe deals".
hahahahahahaha.
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Dude, ( It "Won't" run on pump gas without pulling timing out ) what your saying is, not right, sure you pull timing out when you hit it with the juice, RIGHT ! then you but it back in to run on pump gas. why would you want to pull more timming, on pump gas, your numbers just don't add up. Your missing 50 hp. See how easy it is to misinterpret, what some one is saying, and then misslead people. I call that jumping to conclusions.

[Ed Grisez]

I really love this **** !

[68Bird]

Ed...just wait, it will get better..!

[Half-Inch Stud]

Can you guys take it to email by now..

750HP @ 4800RPM...I'm STILL impressed. Low RPM torque must be outta site!

[Gach]

LOL.....it sure will. ED.. I think you know what it's really all about....Sucks when some makes more hp, with less juice....LOL

[David Holmberg]

[Gach]

Zedo1......Airflow/HP/RPM....that's a hot topic...LOL.... oh your good

[PHILLYGOAT]

Oh Yeah, well my dad can beat up your dad.

[Gach]

Yup, 68Bird...that's just what I want to do, get in my 3700 lb car and run 12.50's with a 250 hp shot of the good old juice.

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[Gach]

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[68Bird]

Gach...sounds good to me..! Do you ever make out to the left coast? Would be great to have a brew or two...or twelve for that matter with you and Bruce. Maybe I will just have to go to Maple Grove one of these years if I can get my Bird respectable. Chris

[David Holmberg]

Oh great, a Drunk Gach.. That would be fun!

[Cobrabill]

68Bird-absolutely no danger of Gach going MG or Norwalk.'Can't wait to see to lops off an appendage this year.

[Gach]

68Bird, maybe we can meet up at Maple Grove this year, if you can make out here. Hey if were lucky we can go for a ride in the wonder wagon...LOL...oops I forgot his drive won't travel that far....LOL

[Gach]

68Bird, actually I can't wait to go to Maple Grove this year. Just can't wait to meet some guys from the board face to face, it'll be nice to put faces into words. OOOOOOOH I'll be there you can count on that!!! diffiantly will be interesting. Now as soon as I figure out why this scanner won't reinstall, I'll have some interesting pictures.It's just a matter of time, I'm actually counting the days, I'll bet there will be some interesting conversations, on this board after Maple Grove this year, course that's only if some one shows up, I doubt that he will.

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[PHILLYGOAT]

Gach, can you fill us guys who are still trying to learn how to go fast what flow #s on the heads, all the torque/HP #'s not just peak. Actually any information about this combination that will help us slow guys to go faster?
Thanks, Phil

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Too stubborn to do it the easy way. What else would I spend all my $ and time on?

[PHILLYGOAT]

Whoa Dudes, I just became a Senior Member! I feel smarter & faster already. Go PHILLY, Go PHILLY. Sorry, I got carried away. I think I will crack open a Dos Equis and celebrate!

[WDCreech]

PHILLYGOAT, open a two WHAT???? I can't find my spanish dictionary.

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