[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Listen if your trying to go fast like chief.....Jack.......Langer........etc..........se riously!
If your a street guy High Ports are a better option.

GTO George

George you know Big Chief use to have hi-ports and then switched to E-heads (the $3200 ones) and went 3.90's...just saying.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

George you know Big Chief use to have hi-ports and then switched to E-heads (the $3200 ones) and went 3.90's...just saying.

He also ran nitrous!

He better make a change he’s starting to suck hind tit....just saying!
The red Camaro is the king!

GTO George

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

He also ran nitrous!

He better make a change he’s starting to suck hind tit....just saying!
The red Camaro is the king!

GTO George

You know George he has already mopped the track with dozens of cars with better heads and bigger engines. You seem to be sure it's the fault of the Edelbrock heads.....do you realize that makes no sense to a reasonably normal person. Your thoughts are if you CAN beat them you might as well join them......that's backwards thinking.....just saying.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

You know George he has already mopped the track with dozens of cars with better heads and bigger engines. You seem to be sure it's the fault of the Edelbrock heads.....do you realize that makes no sense to a reasonably normal person. Your thoughts are if you CAN beat them you might as well join them......that's backwards thinking.....just saying.

That’s history.....the whole 405 is going big engine and twin turbos or pro charger!
Racers that stay in the past.....gets past bye!



GTO George

[Scott Roberts]

Back to the topic... Jeff's car is the most impressive in my opinion out of the ECM. He is laying down incredible e.t.'s. Obviously a well tuned combo.. car and engine.

[grandville455]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

Idk.....isn't your car and Kevin's similar? I know he has a little more compression than you, but you have a bigger port, larger valves, more converter, more gear, a lighter car, more carb spacer, helpful hood scoop and a hundred more passes. They seem to run pretty close.....if we did this would you be willing to leave on a normal foot brake?

Their close yes, but he's at least a point higher comp? And yes I do have more converter and gear etc, The only true test would be the exact same sizes everywhere in that e head and that's just a lot of screwing around for possibly nothing, and that still may not prove anything, as those heads may like more or less then what i already have in my drive train u know? How do u know my ports are bigger? maybe in dimension at port opening, but they get small damn quick inside. I would leave like i did now on my 2 step foot brake, apples to apples

[grandville455]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

Back to the topic... Jeff's car is the most impressive in my opinion out of the ECM. He is laying down incredible e.t.'s. Obviously a well tuned combo.. car and engine.

X100!!!

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by grandville455

Their close yes, but he's at least a point higher comp? And yes I do have more converter and gear etc, The only true test would be the exact same sizes everywhere in that e head and that's just a lot of screwing around for possibly nothing, and that still may not prove anything, as those heads may like more or less then what i already have in my drive train u know? How do u know my ports are bigger? maybe in dimension at port opening, but they get small damn quick inside. I would leave like i did now on my 2 step foot brake, apples to apples

With your valve size and port opening if they aren't bigger there's a lot of room for improvement. An efficient engine won't need a crutch to get it to leave hard. That's why I asked about you foot braking.... you buy the castings and I'll supply the rest including the headers. You can keep the better set of heads when your done testing.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

Back to the topic... Jeff's car is the most impressive in my opinion out of the ECM. He is laying down incredible e.t.'s. Obviously a well tuned combo.. car and engine.

You must not of seen my post EHTTFMF. Jeff runs Eheads.

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

With your valve size and port opening if they aren't bigger there's a lot of room for improvement. An efficient engine won't need a crutch to get it to leave hard. That's why I asked about you foot braking.... you buy the castings and I'll supply the rest including the headers. You can keep the better set of heads when your done testing.

That's a deal I would be all over !

[grandville455]

Originally Posted by dragracerx2813

That's a deal I would be all over !

I didn’t say no lol, just I plan on moving into a different head in a year or two , honestly leaning towards Barton’s hi ports , but we’ll see how this new engine goes first !!

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

Do you think your heads have the potential to run 3.9 in the eighth? Would you agree a head for $3200 complete is a pretty good price for a head with that kind of power potential? That's my point, I'm bewildered that so many can knock a head with that kind of potential and cost.... I build quite a few high powered turbo engines and some of the heads cost around 10k and run sevens....they just seem like a pretty good deal to me.

I HIGHLY doubt that you can build big chief heads complete ready to run for $3200. So what does that $3200 have to do with big chief's heads?

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by slowbird

I HIGHLY doubt that you can build big chief heads complete ready to run for $3200. So what does that $3200 have to do with big chief's heads?

Why?

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by slowbird

I HIGHLY doubt that you can build big chief heads complete ready to run for $3200. So what does that $3200 have to do with big chief's heads?

I agree, they might have the 350cfm std port, but I bet the rest of it is the best parts you can get. He would be foolish not to.
I just dont know why he has not at least went to the 410+cfm E heads.
Pocket change to him.

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

Why?

You think Big Chief is running stock valves, valve springs, retainers, and stud mounted rockers?? If he is that is pretty impressive spinning things to close to 9,000rpm with 50+lbs of boost with those stock cheap parts.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by slowbird

You think Big Chief is running stock valves, valve springs, retainers, and stud mounted rockers?? If he is that is pretty impressive spinning things to close to 9,000rpm with 50+lbs of boost with those stock cheap parts.

Doesn't matter what I think. I doubt they charge extra to remove the rocker studs and guide plates though!

[mjm421]

Originally Posted by slowbird

I HIGHLY doubt that you can build big chief heads complete ready to run for $3200. So what does that $3200 have to do with big chief's heads?

I bet he has 3000 in valves and springs.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by mjm421

I bet he has 3000 in valves and springs.

I'd take that bet.... maybe $3000 worth of valves and springs.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

I agree, they might have the 350cfm std port, but I bet the rest of it is the best parts you can get. He would be foolish not to.
I just dont know why he has not at least went to the 410+cfm E heads.
Pocket change to him.

Are you his banker? You talk to all kinds of people why not ask him why he didn't try a 410 cfm E-head.

[gene simmons]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

I just dont know why he has not at least went to the 410+cfm E heads.
Pocket change to him.

No need too,he is going CV-1s.