[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

I'm sure the best wide port e-head out there (per GREATGTO the ones you did) have more work done to them then mine.. Im willing to take that bet!!!!

... nice try Jeff ...

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

I'm sure the best wide port e-head out there (per GREATGTO the ones you did) have more work done to them then mine.. Im willing to take that bet!!!!

BUT, will they run better?

NOPE!

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... humm, you seem emotionally compromised Toilet Man, what's a' matter ?? you dont like it when you guys run your your mouths, and then i'm right behind you doin' the same thing, only mine stings a lot more now doesn't Jack ?? ...

... because unlike you useless puke, i've stated FACTS, yet again ...

... C'mon Jack, you can do better then that buddy ...

... as for Robin, he burned a plug, which damaged a seat on one of the heads, and that is all, and after almost 90 consecutive passes in the low 8's i'll take a damaged seat everyday of the week, and before you even ask, i have those heads in the shop, so its not hearsay, Jack ...

... heck, you have Robin's number, call him yourself and ask, he'll tell you exactly what happened ...

... and for his current set of heads, they are perfectly intact, and Robin is pursuing chassis improvements now, as he is tired of pullin' out power and still blowin' the tires off ...

You showed no proof of any facts just hersey.

Just like this magic 174 MPH pass you say Robin did.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

Just a FYI the reason Robin hasn't been on the track this year has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with a racecar.It does however have EVERYTHING to do with him being a good Father and his kids.
Lil Jack if anyone should now a little about being a father I would imagine you would.

Just stop, any hardcore racer like Robin will find the time to get out and race!

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

How much money is in 3 sets of CV1s???

I have the same ten year old E-heads on mine?

Robin has somewhere south of $6,500 in his heads, with valves, port work, castings, springs and hardware.

As far as I know, the heads I did for him are the same heads he still has on his car. Now why did he switch heads, he wanted to go faster, take advantage of the latest technology, try to maximize his combination.

That's not different than you sending old heads to Gaby, Robin decided to start with new castings.

If someone called me today, I would love to charge $7,000.00 for my labor, but in reality, it would be closer to $4k to match the power Robin has made.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

You showed no proof of any facts just hersey.

Just like this magic 174 MPH pass you say Robin did.

... i guess you cant read, Gaby verified the whole thing, Jack ... remember ??? ... i mean $7,000 + $5K-$6K aint rocket science bud ...

... but twist away Jack, i know you will ...

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

Robin has somewhere south of $6,500 in his heads, with valves, port work, castings, springs and hardware.

As far as I know, the heads I did for him are the same heads he still has on his car. Now why did he switch heads, he wanted to go faster, take advantage of the latest technology, try to maximize his combination.

That's not different than you sending old heads to Gaby, Robin decided to start with new castings.

If someone called me today, I would love to charge $7,000.00 for my labor, but in reality, it would be closer to $4k to match the power Robin has made.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

You could probably charge 7 grand if you could promise them a 7 second timeslip

How much did your boy Goatracer have in his top end with that big 2 fo intake??

that was a real rocket ship.

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

Robin has somewhere south of $6,500 in his heads, with valves, port work, castings, springs and hardware.

As far as I know, the heads I did for him are the same heads he still has on his car. Now why did he switch heads, he wanted to go faster, take advantage of the latest technology, try to maximize his combination.

That's not different than you sending old heads to Gaby, Robin decided to start with new castings.

If someone called me today, I would love to charge $7,000.00 for my labor, but in reality, it would be closer to $4k to match the power Robin has made.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

Thats a hell of a better deal than 12k, lets not forget the 12k didnt include the cost of the bare heads, so thats another 1800 bucks on top of the 12k. You would think Gaby would have a cnc port for those eheads for 500 ci builds.

[wreckmastr]

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

Robin has somewhere south of $6,500 in his heads, with valves, port work, castings, springs and hardware.

As far as I know, the heads I did for him are the same heads he still has on his car. Now why did he switch heads, he wanted to go faster, take advantage of the latest technology, try to maximize his combination.

That's not different than you sending old heads to Gaby, Robin decided to start with new castings.

If someone called me today, I would love to charge $7,000.00 for my labor, but in reality, it would be closer to $4k to match the power Robin has made.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

... ok, lets see here, a CV-1 customer can send his heads to Hill performance, and spend almost $4K and in return be able to make enough power to run 7's on N20, or an E-Head customer can send his E-Heads to the master and spend (WELL OVER $12K) to run 8 teens at Norwalk on N20 ??? ...

... hummm, lets see here, where's my Internet Drag Racing Calculator ?? ...

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... i guess you cant read, Gaby verified the whole thing, Jack ... remember ??? ... i mean $7,000 + $5K-$6K aint rocket science bud ...

... but twist away Jack, i know you will ...

So you don't have a written document of what all the top end work was then?

Funny I saw it, $2500 to port the heads and $2500 to do the intake. Then the rest parts and assembly.

Pretty cheap for proven performance.

I don't have to twist anything.

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... ok, lets see here, a CV-1 customer can send his heads to Hill performance, and spend almost $4K and in return be able to make enough power to run 7's on N20, or an E-Head customer can send his E-Heads to the master and spend (WELL OVER $12K) to run 8 teens at Norwalk on N20 ??? ...

... hummm, lets see here, where's my Internet Drag Racing Calculator ?? ...

Well Bill some head porters use their calculator to see how much money they can make off a customer and some use it to see how much they can save their customer.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... ok, lets see here, a CV-1 customer can send his heads to Hill performance, and spend almost $4K and in return be able to make enough power to run 7's on N20, or an E-Head customer can send his E-Heads to the master and spend (WELL OVER $12K) to run 8 teens at Norwalk on N20 ??? ...

... hummm, lets see here, where's my Internet Drag Racing Calculator ?? ...

What other CVwhat car at 3480#s ran in the teens at Norwalk? NONE!


and I do not have 12k in my heads.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

So you don't have a written document of what all the top end work was then?

Funny I saw it, $2500 to port the heads and $2500 to do the intake. Then the rest parts and assembly.

Pretty cheap for proven performance.

I don't have to twist anything.

... nice try Jack ...

(Well Over $12K) to Duplicate !!

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

Well Bill some head porters use their calculator to see how much money they can make off a customer and some use it to see how much they can save their customer.

7 second timeslip > $

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... nice try Jack ...

(Well Over $12K) to Duplicate !!

if you know so much about it then post it!

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

What other CVwhat car at 3480#s ran in the teens at Norwalk? NONE!


and I do not have 12k in my heads.

... i know you dont jack, you've said that 10 times already, BUT ...

(Well Over $12K) to Duplicate !!

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... ok, lets see here, a CV-1 customer can send his heads to Hill performance, and spend almost $4K and in return be able to make enough power to run 7's on N20, or an E-Head customer can send his E-Heads to the master and spend (WELL OVER $12K) to run 8 teens at Norwalk on N20 ??? ...

... hummm, lets see here, where's my Internet Drag Racing Calculator ?? ...

what CVwhat car has run anywhere close to the 7s???

That 3k# mustang LMFAO!

Robin?
I got him beat by 2 tenths and I am 160 #s heavier!


Its hard to argue with an ET slip.

[blaktopr]

Money well spent to get this kind of performance.

As a contractor myself it is easy to see the dollars and cents of all this.
As a hobbyist head grinder I see the time involved to achieve a particular end product.

I look at it this way and I know others would agree on this example.

80 hours labor (+/-) 2 full time work weeks
75$ per hour (+/- may vary based on individual and op costs/overhead)

$6000 before parts. Give or take.

There is paying a price just to race.
Then there is paying to be competitive.

A picture bought from Walmart.
Or a picture painted by Picasso.


Even Pep Boys has a 95+$ hourly rate.
My .02

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

You could probably charge 7 grand if you could promise them a 7 second timeslip

How much did your boy Goatracer have in his top end with that big 2 fo intake??

that was a real rocket ship.

That car ran just about as good as yours did @ Norwalk in 2011.

The carbs were a PY deal, the heads and intake with porting was right around $4,500, and I gave him a deal, was my original castings, not pretty being cut on and trashed, but if things wouldn't have went south, would have made for some fun.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420