[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Rob B

I ran Division 3 points from 89 -92. In 92 made it to the qtrs at the Div 3 finals and thank God I lost on Sunday because we were the last pair to go down when it started drizzling on Sunday and I slid thru the beams. I was 'done" with the whole points BS. Race all year at one Ahole owned track to get a chance at a race at the end of the year that paid less than your weekly payouts...

I think that win paid $1,000 but I got almost another $1,000 in contingency (I’m pretty sure I screwed the spelling up) money.


GTO George

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

I agree. It's the only commercially available off the shelf head that sells complete for $3195 and has three second eighth mile potential. It's also the only aftermarket Pontiac head that's available with free shipping... I'm bewildered by all the hate. Seems like an incredible deal to me.

You can still find them for under 2900 if you look hard enough. I spent more than that for my last set of AFR sbc heads !

[grandville455]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

I agree. It's the only commercially available off the shelf head that sells complete for $3195 and has three second eighth mile potential. It's also the only aftermarket Pontiac head that's available with free shipping... I'm bewildered by all the hate. Seems like an incredible deal to me.

I don't disagree, but really? who has that kind of money TO RUN THAT e.t and then u need everything else that goes with it, like the light chassis, twin hair dryers, list goes on and on, What's sickening is all this bitching about who's head is ****ing better period! Who cares, why can't the pontiac people all stay on the same side, Its their car with whatever they choose for heads etc, its up to them to make it et where they want, and if they meet their goals then who are we to say anything to anyone! They met their goals and their happy, doesn't effect me or anyone else. I used to come to this board for advice and learn ****, these days very little learning and a bunch of people bitching etc! May as well just go to the YB! ,LOL

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by grandville455

I don't disagree, but really? who has that kind of money TO RUN THAT e.t and then u need everything else that goes with it, like the light chassis, twin hair dryers, list goes on and on, What's sickening is all this bitching about who's head is ****ing better period! Who cares, why can't the pontiac people all stay on the same side, Its their car with whatever they choose for heads etc, its up to them to make it et where they want, and if they meet their goals then who are we to say anything to anyone! They met their goals and their happy, doesn't effect me or anyone else. I used to come to this board for advice and learn ****, these days very little learning and a bunch of people bitching etc! May as well just go to the YB! ,LOL

I couldn't agree more. I think all the options are great.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

I agree. It's the only commercially available off the shelf head that sells complete for $3195 and has three second eighth mile potential. It's also the only aftermarket Pontiac head that's available with free shipping... I'm bewildered by all the hate. Seems like an incredible deal to me.

Seriously did you say that with a straight face.........I hope not! Can you honestly say that a high port wouldn't run the same ET or Quicker in the same situation (chiefs car/set up)? All it is, is a port it doesnt know what brand it is!


GTO George

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Seriously did you say that with a straight face.........I hope not! Can you honestly say that a high port wouldn't run the same ET or Quicker in the same situation (chiefs car/set up)? All it is, is a port it doesnt know what brand it is!


GTO George

Let me ask you this George. Let's say I bought a set of high ports. What else would I need to buy to make them work ?

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by dragracerx2813

Let me ask you this George. Let's say I bought a set of high ports. What else would I need to buy to make them work ?

What are you trying to do with them? Heck they go 330 plus out of the box!


GTO George

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

What are you trying to do with them?


GTO George

Nothing . I was just wondering. I know they are a little more than the E heads. If you buy the E heads you also need head bolts. So I was trying to see what you needed with the high ports .

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Oh stop my car can run 5.0’s all day in 85 degree weather on a ****ty track! Been there done that!
Why you gotta be so mean.......I have feelings!
GTO George

GTOGeorge,
Let me clarify my last question. What size tire do you run?

Stan

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

Are you talking about the FACT! That you or Kinsler has still yet to run faster than Fulton in the 1/4? And according to Bill,he did it on 7 cylinders more or less.
Heck LJ you had a guy tow his car ONE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY MILES TO RACE YOU!!! I spelled it out so it's not a typo.... And you had excuses for him.

So were you wishing in one hand and.............


I say you,Billy,Brian,LJ ,Fulton,Robin show up to one of the throw downs in Tulsa pay your entries put the radials on the cars and race for $25k to win like Kendal did last October....and my homey didn't do to shabby with his bbc powered muftang may I add!

Jason,
You are looking at grapes and grapefruits. That group races 1/8 mile Dick runs 1/4. End of 2015 Jeff ran a 7.77 @ 169 turning the nitrous off 6.5 seconds into the run. Jeff just ran a 4.80 1/8 mile. What is Dicks best 1/8 mile? It is not as simple as just changing the rear gear ratio for either of them to run the others distance.

Stan

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

GTOGeorge,
Let me clarify my last question. What size tire do you run?

Stan

Bigger then jack.



GTO George

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Seriously did you say that with a straight face.........I hope not! Can you honestly say that a high port wouldn't run the same ET or Quicker in the same situation (chiefs car/set up)? All it is, is a port it doesnt know what brand it is!


GTO George

GTOGeorge,
Where are some examples of someone who has done it? Otherwise it is just a WAG on your part.

Stan

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

What are you trying to do with them? Heck they go 330 plus out of the box!



GTO George

GTOGeorge,
At what valve lift?

Stan

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Jason,
You are looking at grapes and grapefruits. That group races 1/8 mile Dick runs 1/4. End of 2015 Jeff ran a 7.77 @ 169 turning the nitrous off 6.5 seconds into the run. Jeff just ran a 4.80 1/8 mile. What is Dicks best 1/8 mile? It is not as simple as just changing the rear gear ratio for either of them to run the others distance.

Stan

Dick ran a shut off early 7.58 something at norwalk on a hurt engine. Comparing a cars 1/8 mile that is set up for the 1/4 mile to a cars 1/8 mile when his car is set up to run the 1/8 is not apples to Appels.


GTO George

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Bigger then jack.



GTO George

GTOGeorge,
So then to run that class you might need to put on a smaller tire. Then you might run those 5.0 or that track that day.

Stan

[RA462]

[QUOTE=grandville455;5871773]What's sickening is all this bitching about who's head is ****ing better period! Who cares, why can't the pontiac people all stay on the same side, Its their car with whatever they choose for heads etc, its up to them to make it et where they want, and if they meet their goals then who are we to say anything to anyone!

25+ years ago we used to look under the hood of a high performance Pontiac and look to see if the guy had good cylinder heads like a 12,13,48, ect. or some crappy 6H smog heads. From doing this for so many years it is now embedded in our DNA. I myself try to stay out of the cylinder head wars the best I can.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

GTOGeorge,
At what valve lift?

Stan

Looks like they are set up for a roller cam with a max lift of .750 for about $1,500 going by there web site.


GTO George

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Jason,
You are looking at grapes and grapefruits. That group races 1/8 mile Dick runs 1/4. End of 2015 Jeff ran a 7.77 @ 169 turning the nitrous off 6.5 seconds into the run. Jeff just ran a 4.80 1/8 mile. What is Dicks best 1/8 mile? It is not as simple as just changing the rear gear ratio for either of them to run the others distance.

Stan

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Dick ran a shut off early 7.58 something at norwalk on a hurt engine. Comparing a cars 1/8 mile that is set up for the 1/4 mile to a cars 1/8 mile when his car is set up to run the 1/8 is not apples to Appels.


GTO George

GTOGeorge,
Maybe if you read and comprehended what I wrote you would not have written this response. Where you are telling me what I just posted.

Stan

[GTOGEORGE]

[QUOTE=RA462;5871809]

Originally Posted by grandville455

What's sickening is all this bitching about who's head is ****ing better period! Who cares, why can't the pontiac people all stay on the same side, Its their car with whatever they choose for heads etc, its up to them to make it et where they want, and if they meet their goals then who are we to say anything to anyone!

25+ years ago we used to look under the hood of a high performance Pontiac and look to see if the guy had good cylinder heads like a 12,13,48, ect. or some crappy 6H smog heads. From doing this for so many years it is now embedded in our DNA. I myself try to stay out of the cylinder head wars the best I can.

Every time another head comes out other then the e Head the same people bitch about them.......FACT! I’m telling you it’s a cult! LOL! I like to see the Pontiac venders do well because they care about us Pontiac Racers. Wensler was the first someone had to start it, the big companies didn’t care, no money in it for them!



GTO George

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by grandville455

I don't disagree, but really? who has that kind of money TO RUN THAT e.t and then u need everything else that goes with it, like the light chassis, twin hair dryers, list goes on and on, What's sickening is all this bitching about who's head is ****ing better period! Who cares, why can't the pontiac people all stay on the same side, Its their car with whatever they choose for heads etc, its up to them to make it et where they want, and if they meet their goals then who are we to say anything to anyone! They met their goals and their happy, doesn't effect me or anyone else. I used to come to this board for advice and learn ****, these days very little learning and a bunch of people bitching etc! May as well just go to the YB! ,LOL

I think you might be taking this all a little to serious. On another note having the drive is much more important than "having the money"..... everyone wants to blame it on the money, but most don't really have the drive.
Do you have more that $3200 into you d-ports?