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Old 04-21-2016, 08:52 PM
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No sleep for the wicked...congrats Mike. Rain is not suspended in air. Air temp is directly related to its ability to retain water vapor. What was the temp, that tells more about your conditions, unless you want to divulge the entire armospheric environment.
LOL!!!! Really. So water falling out of the sky is not suspended? I know all about moisture in the air. More than you might think. Dynoing on a rainy day will make less power due to a much greater amount of water in the air. That's why you need to add more timing too. but feel free to think watever you want.

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I'm basing my statement from meteorological facts. What was the air temp? That will dictate the maximum water vapor content. And no, rain is not water vapor, so it does not affect density altitude. Rain is liquid, it is not suspended in the air.

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Water grains affect me at the track huge! I look at that as much or more than anything else.

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I'm basing my statement from meteorological facts. What was the air temp? That will dictate the maximum water vapor content. And no, rain is not water vapor, so it does not affect density altitude. Rain is liquid, it is not suspended in the air.
LOL again. You're killing me here. Obviously falling rain is not suspended or it would not be falling. I don't really care about meteorological facts or summations. I'm pretty sure it would be atmospheric facts but i digress. I have my very own psychrometric chart and know how to use it quite well. I also have zero interest in debating what it might have made or should have made or might make somewhere else.

I handle moisture issues and solve problems relating to moisture for a living. I also regularly explain these conditions to engineers and environmental people. So please just let it go. If you THINK the dyno corrects for these conditions AND that the correction is a true and accurate representation then good for you i guess.

I know better. I've seen the same engine hooked to the dyno make 25 hp less on consecutive days due to weather. And it was not raining. Just humid.

And besides i posted the sheet.

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Water grains affect me at the track huge! I look at that as much or more than anything else.
Ever seen an engine lose 20 hp on back-to-back days up to the same Dyno?

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Great power mike. Very impressive.

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Old 04-21-2016, 11:12 PM
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Thank you all for the kind words. Time to go in the car!

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Great job Mike and All involved.Its fact dyno on a bad day makes less ,corrects less and you have to change tune to deal with water in the air.Bill C.

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Nicely done Mike!

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Maybe the low pressure air that is normally associated with rainy atmospheric conditions is where it went? Your engine is a bad Poncho and that's all I really care about. Congrats on keeping it together and thanks for sharing this info.

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That is one bad bitch! Congrats

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Flat out awesome. Congrats on results, they are the result of a lot of hard work and thinking differently. Enjoy it.

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Good result Mike. I'm sure the power will show in the car.
Torque had a nice sweet spot at 7700, just like you predicted.
Power was down some by your predicted peak of 8600. I can hear the turning gears in your head from Iowa.
Might have been the air, but I bet you get just a little more air in and out of that thing before it ever goes on the pump again.

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Maybe the low pressure air that is normally associated with rainy atmospheric conditions is where it went? Your engine is a bad Poncho and that's all I really care about. Congrats on keeping it together and thanks for sharing this info.
Humidity displaces oxygen. Think of it this way. Every water molecule in the air going into your engine takes the place of a useful oxygen molecule that would have otherwise gone in.

Rain isn't the culprit directly, but a rainy day has high humidity.

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I know where I dyno we wait for a nice day with low humidity. If it's raining we don't do it...

Dyno operator said HP will be down 20+ HP on a really humid or rainy day...

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Congrats on the HP Mike....will you make Beech Bend NMCA in May?

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Nice HP numbers.

What was the uncorrected dyno numbers?


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