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#181
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Just curious, how do you know Schneider is the company making the new Comp 857 lifters? Or am I misunderstanding your post? That's a big savings if you buy them directly from Schneider than Comp.
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#182
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They look more like Johnsons than the new comps.Tom
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#183
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It's Shaver Specialties. Here's a part of an article copied from engine labs website.
At one time the company manufactured lifters for Isky, but now the emphasis is on hydraulic roller lifters for COMP Cams and Edelbrock. So it seems they are doing Edelbrocks lifters as well as Comps. Shaver manufacturers the gears used on the Shaver/Wesmar gear drive units. Shown is a No. 7 Fellows gear shaper. In the center is a computer-controlled Sunnen vertical hone that is accurate to plus-or-minus 25 millionths of an inch when setting the clearance for the hydraulic roller lifter case. The first step in building the lifter is notching the end with a Sundstrand mill.
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68 GTO,3860# Stock Original 400/M-20 Muncie,3.55’s 13.86 @ 100 Old combo: 462 10.75 CR,,SD 330CFM Round Port E's,Old Faithful cam,Jim Hand Continental,3.42's. 1968 Pontiac GTO : 11.114 @ 120.130 MPH New combo: 517 MR-1,10.8 CR,SD 350CFM E's,QFT 950/Northwind,246/252 HR,9.5” 4000 stall,3.42's 636HP/654TQ 1.452 10.603 @ 125.09 http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-GTO...lip-31594.html |
#184
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I meant the Schneiders look like Johnsons.Tom
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#185
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Sorry, I meant to quote a different post
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68 GTO,3860# Stock Original 400/M-20 Muncie,3.55’s 13.86 @ 100 Old combo: 462 10.75 CR,,SD 330CFM Round Port E's,Old Faithful cam,Jim Hand Continental,3.42's. 1968 Pontiac GTO : 11.114 @ 120.130 MPH New combo: 517 MR-1,10.8 CR,SD 350CFM E's,QFT 950/Northwind,246/252 HR,9.5” 4000 stall,3.42's 636HP/654TQ 1.452 10.603 @ 125.09 http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-GTO...lip-31594.html |
#186
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follow up
I posted a video earlier in this 10 page thread with my engine at idle. I went through each lifter and checked lash- adjusting them closer to 3/4 as opposed to 1/2 turn. In the process, I found a rocker tip going bad- Thanks to Bill Meyer for helping me with a replacement (it will get a new set later). Warmed the engine up and definitely is quieter. Again, hard to tell with the "hollow" & echoing sound of my phone video- but I certainly have no issues with the new comp Hyd rollers...
https://youtu.be/k2bUysRp5wI
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68 Firebird-- Street/Strip - 400/461 Eagle Forged Bottom End & Ross Flat top pistons. KRE 325 CFM D port, Ultradyne 263/271 @.050, .4267 lift. Crower Solid roller lifters and 1.65 stainless rockers. Quickfuel 1000 on Torker2 intake and 2" open spacer. Hedman 1.75" headers. TH400 w/brake. Ford 9" w/3.80 gears & 28x9 Hoosier pro bracket drag radial. Best ET: 1.35 60ft, 6.29 @ 107.20 mph, 9.99 @132.33 mph. 3,300 race weight |
#187
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What brand/part number rockers?
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
#188
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Did you happen to note the relationship of the oil hole in the block to the lifter band?
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
#189
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68 Firebird-- Street/Strip - 400/461 Eagle Forged Bottom End & Ross Flat top pistons. KRE 325 CFM D port, Ultradyne 263/271 @.050, .4267 lift. Crower Solid roller lifters and 1.65 stainless rockers. Quickfuel 1000 on Torker2 intake and 2" open spacer. Hedman 1.75" headers. TH400 w/brake. Ford 9" w/3.80 gears & 28x9 Hoosier pro bracket drag radial. Best ET: 1.35 60ft, 6.29 @ 107.20 mph, 9.99 @132.33 mph. 3,300 race weight |
#190
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Nevermind, saw the other thread, it's Monday!
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
#191
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The lifters looked like theyd do more oiling at the base circle. Fired it up tonight and the lifters were totally silent within five minutes at idle. That certainly didnt happen during the engine breakin last November. More like 30+ minutes and never as quiet as the new set.
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#192
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That sounds promising....
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
#193
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Quote:
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#194
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
#195
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I drove the car today to work. Valve-train noise is non-existent. Pleased so far and hats off to Wally at Comp Cams for agreeing to replace them free of charge. No warranty though but its been almost 4 years since i built the motor.
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#196
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My impression was that the 857S is a discontinued part number. I have heard that the new version of the 857 may be the same actual part as the old 857S, and that the old 857 (non-s version) is no longer available.
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#197
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The new is the only one avail.Tom
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#198
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Tom has used several sets of the the new Comp HR lifters without issues so that's good enough for me.
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#199
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I have been told that many of the hyd roller problems have actually been pointed to dirt.They dont like anything but clean oil.Tom
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#200
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I have a note out to Comp, but
have not heard back. Does anyone know what weight of oil THEY recommend for the 857 lifters? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
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68 Firebird-- Street/Strip - 400/461 Eagle Forged Bottom End & Ross Flat top pistons. KRE 325 CFM D port, Ultradyne 263/271 @.050, .4267 lift. Crower Solid roller lifters and 1.65 stainless rockers. Quickfuel 1000 on Torker2 intake and 2" open spacer. Hedman 1.75" headers. TH400 w/brake. Ford 9" w/3.80 gears & 28x9 Hoosier pro bracket drag radial. Best ET: 1.35 60ft, 6.29 @ 107.20 mph, 9.99 @132.33 mph. 3,300 race weight |
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