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Old 04-01-2014, 11:22 PM
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You got me Dick. I had a billet 800" Billet block made for my billet heads.

Will that pump go that high?

... um, you do realize the stroke needed to make 800c.i. with only a 4.400 bore, or smaller ?? ...

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... so the only thing that seperates Fulton's A.P.D. Cv-1's and your Visner Billet Heads is simply what they're made of Jack ?? ...

... wow, just wow ...
Well, and mine will make 150 more HP then his junk!!

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Well, and mine will make 150 more HP then his junk!!

Bazinga!
... that's all ?? ...

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cant everyone just get along in here.. jeeze..............












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... that's all ?? ...
Or a good 3-4 car lengths.

Will u be dynoing Mr Fultons bullet?

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Or a good 3-4 car lengths.

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Would you and Jeff please stop having fun here, it is a Pontiac site damn it.

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Or a good 3-4 car lengths.

Will u be dynoing Mr Fultons bullet?
... really ?? ...

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I need some clarification on this whole skull dragging thing. Do you grab the skull and drag the body and feet, or do you grab the feet and drag the body and skull? Just need to know where to attach the skid plate.

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Anybody put any money up on this deal yet?

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Lil,

I need some clarification on this whole skull dragging thing. Do you grab the skull and drag the body and feet, or do you grab the feet and drag the body and skull? Just need to know where to attach the skid plate.

DF

Anybody put any money up on this deal yet?
Will you be doing any testing locally? I would love to show up and check out your beautiful car in person.

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Lil,

I need some clarification on this whole skull dragging thing. Do you grab the skull and drag the body and feet, or do you grab the feet and drag the body and skull? Just need to know where to attach the skid plate.

DF

Anybody put any money up on this deal yet?
Look it up in the urban dictionary

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... really ?? ...
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You might be the first cv1 headed engine to crack 1,000 HP!

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Was there ever a dyno sheet for a 1000 HP ehead posted?
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Oh my.

I was curious so I looked it up as you suggested. That is not very friendly.

This race ( and I am confident it will happen) will be worth the price of admission.

Instead of grudge style you two may want to go match race format 2 out of 3. This is going to be ugly.

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Oh my.

I was curious so I looked it up as you suggested. That is not very friendly.

This race ( and I am confident it will happen) will be worth the price of admission.

Instead of grudge style you two may want to go match race format 2 out of 3. This is going to be ugly.
Not based on Lil Jack's comments.

1) It's a nitrous motor it will not make not kind of N/A HP

That means he must be spraying some serious nitrous.

2) I will not have the hood off all weekend

That means that he will lose by a good 3-4 car lengths minimum

Stan

PS - Bill 800.000 ci with a 4.40" bore needs a 6.576651" stroke

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Not based on Lil Jack's comments.

1) It's a nitrous motor it will not make not kind of N/A HP

That means he must be spraying some serious nitrous.

2) I will not have the hood off all weekend

That means that he will lose by a good 3-4 car lengths minimum

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PS - Bill 800.000 ci with a 4.40" bore needs a 6.576651" stroke

Interpretation I guess (I generally don't speak to any members outside of this forum).

1. Race nitrous engines are expected to maximize while on the spray...and yes I would expect a good amount of spray.
2. I took that to mean the engine will be reliable enough as to run the number and not need any maintenance all weekend.

As for the 800 cubes certainly an exaggeration but you keep throwing out the 4.40 max bore. Certainly someone with the intimate knowledge that you have on the McCarty/BES big inch RAV builds know that Pontiac engines with much larger bores are being built.

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Interpretation I guess (I generally don't speak to any members outside of this forum).

1. Race nitrous engines are expected to maximize while on the spray...and yes I would expect a good amount of spray.
2. I took that to mean the engine will be reliable enough as to run the number and not need any maintenance all weekend.

As for the 800 cubes certainly an exaggeration but you keep throwing out the 4.40 max bore. Certainly someone with the intimate knowledge that you have on the McCarty/BES big inch RAV builds know that Pontiac engines with much larger bores are being built.
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What has that got to do with the question that was asked that I answered?

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... um, you do realize the stroke needed to make 800c.i. with only a 4.400 bore, or smaller ?? ...
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Interpretation I guess (I generally don't speak to any members outside of this forum).

1. Race nitrous engines are expected to maximize while on the spray...and yes I would expect a good amount of spray.
2. I took that to mean the engine will be reliable enough as to run the number and not need any maintenance all weekend.

As for the 800 cubes certainly an exaggeration but you keep throwing out the 4.40 max bore. Certainly someone with the intimate knowledge that you have on the McCarty/BES big inch RAV builds know that Pontiac engines with much larger bores are being built.
As to #1: I also read the post that way.

As to #2: Same old BS that it is not a Pontiac if the Bore Spacing is touched.

Why the 800 cubes was even brought up is BS as related to any Traditional Pontiac. Not the same BS deal for the picture with the carbs (T-Bill likes) shown on Sonny's engine. Everyone likes to brag a bit about some stuff (carbs in Bill's case) they are working on at work.

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What has that got to do with the question that was asked that I answered?



Stan
Jack sarcastically said 800 cube billet block, Bill said what ridiculous stroke with a 4.40 bore, you agreed. I said why the 4.40 referenced limit and agreement if there are Bigger bores possible...especially with a billet block.

That's it. Is what it is. If this keeps up I'll have to teach Jack and Dick a lesson with my slow a$$ n/a car.

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