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1967 400 HO/4 Speed Starter - Info Request
Hello all. I’m in the process of removing my WV code engine to replace rear main seal and doing some detail work on engine and engine bay. I was unable to get the starter off the engine without first removing the LH exhaust manifold. It was an absolute bear. The length of the starter assembly would not allow me to move it forward and tilt down. The nose would not clear the bell housing before the front end hit the frame crossmember. Once I removed the manifold and got the starter out, I noticed it’s not the original starter. Looks like it’s from a Camaro. I suspect the aluminum nose is too long/incorrect for the car.
I’m hoping that someone here can/will measure overall length of the correct starter. I think the original part is GM 1108335(?) Thanks! Don |
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That number is for the 68/69? HO starter I think.
67 is 1107355 I believe. But anyways the starters are basically the same size, (HD ones anyway). The chevy would have a different bolt pattern I think on the nose section and aimed opposite. It could have the nose section from a Pontiac on the main body though.
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1108353 was also used in 67 on HO/RA.
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Thanks for your replies and advice, guys. I referenced the GM 1108335 part number after reading info from this site:http://www.wallaceracing.com/starter-numbers.htm
I do see GM 1107355 listed as well. I do not see GM 1108353 until 1968. I'm hoping that someone here will confirm that GM 1107355 is indeed appropriate for my May 1967 built HO/4 speed (WV code) car. This part number seems to be much easier to find that the others. |
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Thanks for your replies and advice, guys. I referenced the GM 1108335 part number after reading info from this site:http://www.wallaceracing.com/starter-numbers.htm
I do see GM 1107355 listed as well. I do not see GM 1108353 until 1968. I'm hoping that someone here will confirm that GM 1107355 is indeed appropriate for my May 1967 built HO/4 speed (WV code) car. This part number seems to be much easier to find that the others. Thanks! |
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Same 1967 year, same WV code engine, same H.O. exhaust manifolds and I replaced the stock starter several times over the years without touching the exhaust. Wonder what was changed on your car to make the removal difficult? I don't think it makes a difference but mine was a January build out of Fremont, CA.
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Mick Batson 1967 original owner Tyro Blue/black top 4-speed HO GTO with all the original parts stored safely away -- 1965 2+2 survivor AC auto -- 1965 Catalina Safari Wagon. |
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Interestingly, I found a correct part numbered (?) starter. It measures exactly the same as the NTFP unit I wrestled out of my car. Something isn't right but I can't figure out what it might be. The starter I took out measures 11.5" overall and 2.5" from mounting holes' centerline to end of nose casting. There's not enough length clearance to lower the nose out of the bell housing before the front end hits the engine cradle /frame.
I was finally able to get the starter out by removing exhaust manifold bolts from head and nuts from exhaust pipe. By pivoting the engine on the mount, I was about to wiggle the starter motor to the point where I could get to the elec connections and then could maneuver it out of the car. Clearly, something is awry but I cant't seem to figure out what it is. Ideas? Thanks! |
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Does the starter have the rear mounting strap/bracket on it?
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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I´m sure you are referring to the front mounting strap/bracket ;-)
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Yes.
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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I guess it all depends on how you’re holding the starter while trying to figure out why you can’t get it back in.
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1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42 1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/2.56 2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23 |
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The black, stamped steel bracket that supports the forward-facing end was NOT present when I disassembled it. I don’t see how, with the setup I have, that bracket could be installed/used. I have this bracket on my C3 Corvette, so I am familiar with it and its placement.
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