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Been a While since we had a "BAD BOY"
boosted Pontiac Engine so here is a good one for you to read about.
https://fuelcurve.com/2022-street-ma...r-69-firebird/ Goodguys 2022 Street Machine of the Year, PPG Street Machine of the Year, Bill Sather 1969 pontiac firebird, BBT Fabrications 1969 firebird, bbt fab Butler Performance was tasked with building the Poncho powerplant; they are the ‘go-to’ shop for Pontiac power. It produces an estimated 1,400 horsepower from the 482 c.i. block topped with Edelbrock cylinder heads, MSD ignition, and a ton of one-off machined parts and pieces from EVOD including the intake and valve covers. BBT fabbed the stainless headers and exhaust system. A Billet Specialties accessory drive and Ron Davis radiator keep the fluids flowing. The power is put to the ground through a McLeod RTX clutch and Bowler T56 transmission. And a couple of Pictures: Tom V.
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A high dollar build for sure... not sure why they wanted the front end to look like a Mercury? And the red seats...? Too much green in the paint for red. His money his car... Nice powerplant.
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Agree. Front end looks unfinished... while I like the red in the interior, it clashes with the paint. To each his own. Definitely not cookie cutter.
I’m sure the power train is well engineered but I don’t get why you would want to disguise the engine so you don’t realize it’s a Pontiac. Most will assume it’s some sort of LS motor. As for my boosted project......... my machine shop closed for good during Covid. retirement equals lack of cash flow. old age equals lack of strength and stamina. motivation gets harder and harder to come by. I’ve only owned the car since 1994 so I have time.
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Cool build. I wish it had more engine details... bore/stroke, compression, head flow, cam, etc
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It would be like going on the show Chopped, receiving a basket of bread, bacon, lettuce, tomato and making a BLT out of it. Is it what everyone actually wants? Yes. Will it win the competition? No.
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Yeah I’d never eve look past the stupid front end. It’s ugly don’t care if it looks stock or not but has to not look stupid. It looks like they couldn’t find a front end for it so they drove it without it. Sorry �� to the owner but that’s my feelings on the front end . Apparently someone thought differently of it (it won a contest) but I’ve seen new Japanese cars that look more like. Pontiac than that car.
I do Like that it’s pure Pontiac power and gets kudos from me on that build quality is probably amazing but if I bought it first thing I’d do is change the front end.
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Show Car, very nicely done. Cool Turbo System.
Do not think he is really interested in really going fast as you try to keep the air from getting into the large engine compartment and hitting the firewall. You try to keep it under the vehicle and what has to go thru the radiator/etc, you try to extract that air using the TA style fender vents. The tiny front spoiler and small height side "skirts" does nothing. Way too small in area. Tom V.
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I posted on this car build prior. See best link below;
https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...Pontiac-engine It was designed to some extent to go "fast." See last few pages.
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Prior Forum post if anyone cares to read. It is short.
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=821815 The metal work was very good I thought.
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Here's a Bad Boy for ya!
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Inner fender and hood vents
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Last edited by 69Phoenix; 07-16-2022 at 03:37 PM. Reason: Grammar |
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Can dig up specs when time permits. Rodney and David Butler (great guys) put the motor together. 482” with Edelbrock heads. I’m sure specs are on their site but will try to pull for you. |
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You can't even run on the short course at Bonneville if you can't run 200+ mph. 200+ ???? Not serious in my mind. It has to do with the aero, sir. Tom V.
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It's an odd looking car to me. But Pontiac powered which is a huge plus and lots of bonus points there. Front end and colors are not my taste. But can certainly appreciate the craftsmanship. Agree it's odd that they went to great lengths to cover up the engine and make it present like one of the dozens of LS derivatives. That is a little strange.
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You guys have a cool forum and seem like die hard Pontiac guys. I like that. Have to stick together as we are fewer and farther between than the Ford and Chevy nuts! |
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Honestly I was, for sure scared, when I was in that CHP Mustang doing over 140 mph with the whole car shell acting like it was going to come apart or the tires were going to blow. A 140 mph speed on the 5 mile Ford Romeo Proving Ground "Oval" in a Ford GT sports car is no big deal, as that speed is 60 mph below its design capabilities. 140 mph in a CHP Mustang was scary. It has to do with what the vehicle is designed to do. Eric and Mike have run 250 mph in the quarter mile. Old School Funny Car. Tom V.
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Welcome to the board! An incredible amount of talent went into your build and I for one can definitely appreciate that. The fact that you left it Pontiac powered instead of going the easy route and dropping an LS in it puts a smile on all of our faces. There are quite a few of us currently building turbo pontiacs that would definitely appreciate your input
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