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Old 10-30-2018, 12:16 PM
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I know this isn't an accurate measurement, but this is what I did to get a guesstimate of the stroke on my crank. I get approximately 4 3/4" !!! Anyone?
The bore on the '62 11B 389 block is 4.12, standard 400 piston size. With this combo, that would make this a 506" engine!
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Yup, 506.6 cid if in deed that's 4.750.
I got to say that I can't see how that stroke Crank would fit in a factory block beacuse you would have to notch it into the water jacket it would seem to clear the Rods.

I think that Crank was ment to be used in a MT Aluminum hemi block, once again if it is 4.750".

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After checking the block a little closer, it has been clearanced on both the water jacket side and the cam tunnel side for the M/T rods. Good catch!

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The aluminum rods you pictured have a little unusual shape to the big ends. Actually, a little narrow and the cap screws are recessed some. This could all be for clearance. Look the block over and see if it has major relief work done for stroke.

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I see the pilot bearing inside the crank, so it was a manual trans unit.
Why couldn't this crank be shot-peened, then polished up good as new, or ground slightly to the next main/rod size?

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I see the pilot bearing inside the crank, so it was a manual trans unit.
Why couldn't this crank be shot-peened, then polished up good as new, or ground slightly to the next main/rod size?
I know it looks rough, but I do think it can be saved. My question is how strong was this unit? Tom S.?

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Old 10-30-2018, 07:28 PM
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We never broke one but remember that was in the 60s.HP and tires has changed.We broke transmissions and rear ends back then.For a street Low RPM build cast cranks have never bothered me.Tom

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I know this isn't an accurate measurement, but this is what I did to get a guesstimate of the stroke on my crank. I get approximately 4 3/4" !!! Anyone?
The bore on the '62 11B 389 block is 4.12, standard 400 piston size. With this combo, that would make this a 506" engine!
That measurement method would work IF (big if) it was a 180 degree crank like a 61-63 Tempest 4 cylinder has.

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Bill, the rod throws are 180 degrees from each other so....

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Hmmmm, have a really strong feeling I examined these parts around '93-94.
Couldn't have been two sets of heavily hogged out 127's, and a pair of disassembled original AFB's & oddball crank in central TX. Ck your PM box Poncho.

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Hmmmm, have a really strong feeling I examined these parts around '93-94.
Couldn't have been two sets of heavily hogged out 127's, and a pair of disassembled original AFB's & oddball crank in central TX. Ck your PM box Poncho.
Don't see any PM's yet. These heads are seriously hogged out. The center divider is pretty thin...With the size of the engine it's no wonder.
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Hmmmm, have a really strong feeling I examined these parts around '93-94.
Couldn't have been two sets of heavily hogged out 127's, and a pair of disassembled original AFB's & oddball crank in central TX. Ck your PM box Poncho.
I have updated my e-mail. Try the PM again.

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There is no numbers in the catalog.They show 4.125,4.250,4.375,4.500 and 4.625 stroke cranks.They are called cast BILLET cranks,made from ductile iron with tensile strength of 110,000 PSI in ALL directions.DONT shoot the messenger!Tom

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Thanks, Tom!

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The flange on the back of the crank has a counterweight on it, so I say someone did that in an attempt to neutral balance it. The 3072-2 number is probably just a job number stamped in by the shop that balanced it so they could keep track of it.

Also, those rods were obviously made in 2014 so no antique jewel there!

Those pistons were sure funny looking back in the day. My guess is they are Arias pistons.

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Also, those rods were obviously made in 2014 so no antique jewel there!

Those pistons were sure funny looking back in the day. My guess is they are Arias pistons.
My Dad has had those rods since the '70's, so your 2014 manufacture date is off by a little....

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From the pic in the catalog they are not M/T rods.Tom

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Old 11-03-2018, 06:32 PM
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From the pic in the catalog they are not M/T rods.Tom
"Thompson M/T 1401.".
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Cool,they are diff than the catalog!Are the pistons also marked with a M/T?The pics of the pontiac pistons dont have that long of skirt in the catalog?Tom

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