[BirdBrain]

Here's an interested one. This had to have been a high level employee's car. It left the Detroit area in 2005 and went out west where it remains.

[tanksteve]

did you add it to your flock?

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

It wasn't an Engineering Car or a PMD Car
It was sold as a Fleet Use Car [invoice code S] , for a Fisher Big-Wig
No way to know what or where it went after they had their use , or how long they used it before selling it.

At this point, it is a final sale - to Fisher
PMD is out of the picture as far as any use , or any further resale.
It is sold to Fisher (new)

The different prices - from what i'm told so far - were based on payment due options.
Pay now get this price - 3398.62
pay in 30 days - 3434.61
They waited 150 days it appears - and paid an additional 217.87 (over lowest price)

If i ever find out any different , will update.

INCREDIBLE CAR !

Here is a clearer copy from 2014 when it was up for sale.
Can tell by the VIN plate it was never a typical rusty crusty Michigan crap car.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

At full retail , with all the FDH Amounts added (all zeroed out for fleet) , plus destination from Ohio -
it would have been over $5000 for car .
And didn't even have AC

[north]

Nicely optioned car and really like the color combo, funny it had deluxe hubcaps only and no decor group. The normal retail price is not affected by the lack of F.D.H. as that was a charge to the dealer wholesale price, not to the retail price. The only thing missing here in the retail total is the delivery charge, but being in Michigan it probably would only be $15 or so.

The discounted price of about $3,300 or so is about the wholesale cost of the car, interesting that interdepartmental pricing wasn't much better than what they charged dealers.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

The base FDH on 69 400 Bird was $167 in that time range
Plus FDH for each option - maybe $200 in total

Shipping from Ohio (where it was built) to Mich in the $40-45 range

No Holdback is another approx $55

So about $300 further discount on the Fleet Deals vs. Dealer Wholesale

Hard to keep all perspectives at all times - but thats about $3000.00 in car money today.
Nice Discount from Dealer Cost
Heavy Discount compared to Civilian Retail

edit - have to add back for tire tax and dealer service , reduce discount by $36

[north]

Shipping charge was always from Pontiac Michigan regardless of actual assembly location. That’s why a Firebird built and sold in Los Angeles had a shipping charge of almost $200 even though the dealer could see the factory from his roof!

I’ve never fully understood what F.D.H. was. It was basically a 5% surcharge on the wholesale price of the car and its option. Did dealers get this back somehow?

Nowadays factories have all kinds of kickbacks to dealers so the dealer can show the client that he is selling the car at his “cost” while actually making a profit because of kickbacks for volume and dealer “prep” etc.

Does anyone know (documented, not just assumed) what F.D..H. Actually stood for?

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Shipping charge was always from Pontiac Michigan regardless of actual assembly location. That’s why a Firebird built and sold in Los Angeles had a shipping charge of almost $200 even though the dealer could see the factory from his roof!

I never knew that, or heard that.
Always thought California was just a big rip-off on destination charge.

To prove your point - here is a T/A built in Ohio - Sold to Royal Pontiac (near PMD)
The destination is only $14.00
Just a couple dollars more than a car built at PMD and sold next door at Retail Store would have been.



I have been told before what FDH stood for , but it meant so little to me in terms of what i do with Invoices - it didnt stick.
Would only be a best guess now.
Can find out again next time.

HoldBack , sometimes they could get back from PMD.
But dont think they could get anything back from the FDH amounts.

[BirdBrain]

I didn't buy it. I'd like to since its such a killer car. I spotted it in an old eBay ad. I love the fact that it's a 3.90 rear end car loaded to the max sans AC. Its a beauty too.

Thanks for the info BVZ and North. I enjoy learning from you guys.